And she says, the doodles are nothing but Jungian Archetypes hardwired into the psyche, nothing to see here...
They have both reached a dead end. They will never make the connection between what it is (for example)these symbols are trying to tell us:
Pictish Stone.
Or that a spiral symbol records a celestial phenomenon, seen worldwide:
Don't show this to Richard Hoagland!
He'll claim that the "face" of 'George Washington' in the center of the right hand set of circles is a duplicate of the Face On mars, and is further 'proof' of his Cydonian theories.
(You may have to tilt your head to the left, close one eye, and squint the other one a bit to see it...BUT IT'S THERE!)