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To: STE=Q
It would seem your statement above shows you to have more than a little in common with the "birther" movement.

Ooooh. Low blow.

I thought anti-birthers believed that the (putative) COLB he displayed on-line WAS -- according to anti-birthers -- a TRUE copy of his birth certificate?

What he has produced may or may not be a true copy of his certificate of live birth. Since I've never seen a hard copy of it and since I'm not an expert in forged documents then I can't say one way or the other.

Yes, we ALL agree with you!

Sure you would. As I've stated before, the clouds could part, angels could sing, and the mighty hand of God could descend from Heaven with a certified copy of Obama's long form birth certificate and you Birthers would say, "Yeah, but how do we know it's not fake?"

So what IS your beef with those that are skeptical -- like yourself -- of the (putative)COLB Obama has displayed on-line?

No beef. Just amusement at that antics of the moronic Orly Taitz and her legion of devoted followers.

Don't you agree that he should show his Birth certificate -- as outlined above?

Nothing requires that he do so.

63 posted on 11/10/2009 6:24:56 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Thank you for your reply, Non-Sequitur!

Just one more point, please:

I said: “Don’t you agree that he should show his Birth certificate — as outlined above?”

You said:

“Nothing requires that he do so.”
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I could be wrong but your answer seems a tad evasive.

I asked you if you thought he SHOULD show his Birth certificate, not whether you thought he could be legally compelled to show it.

Let me put it another way:

Would you at least agree with me that showing his birth certificate would be the proper and ethical thing — the noble thing — for him to do?

STE=Q


69 posted on 11/10/2009 7:46:34 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Hawaii: Obama birth certificate is real
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm
By Dan Nakaso, The Honolulu Advertiser

In an attempt to quash persistent rumors that President Obama was not born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, Hawaii’s health director reiterated that she has personally seen Obama’s birth certificate in the Health Department’s archives:
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.
I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago....”

On Oct. 31, Fukino originally tried to put an end to the belief among “birthers” that Obama was born in Kenya and thus was ineligible to run for the office of president.

Despite Fukino’s statements, the issue has continued to resonate from Capitol Hill to the national airwaves.

CNN’s Lou Dobbs demanded Obama’s original birth certificate. CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein told staffers of Lou Dobbs Tonight that the issue is a “dead” story, Kline told the Los Angeles Times in an interview published Sunday.

In an e-mail, the Times reported, Klein wrote that CNN researchers determined that Obama’s 1961 birth certificate no longer exists because Hawaiian officials had discarded paper documents in 2001 — a claim denied Monday by Hawaiian health officials.

In 2001, Hawaii’s paper documents were reproduced in electronic format, but “any paper data prior to that still exists,” Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

Okubo would not say where Obama’s original birth certificate is but said, “We have backups for all of our backups.”

A congressional resolution introduced by Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawaii, to commemorate the 50th anniversary of island statehood was delayed Monday.

The resolution includes a clause noting Obama’s Hawaiian birthplace. The line “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961” appeared to be construed by birthers as a thinly veiled attempt to get Congress to affirm Obama’s U.S. citizenship, said Dave Helfert, an Abercrombie spokesman.

As the issue came to a vote, Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., rose to object, saying there was not a quorum present. The House later voted 378-0 to approve the resolution. Bachmann voted in favor of the resolution.

Birthers denounce the notion that Obama was born in Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, despite court rulings and statements by Fukino and Hawaii’s Republican governor, Linda Lingle.


72 posted on 11/10/2009 9:03:31 PM PST by jamese777
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