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One Unhinged Muslim & One Incompetent General

Posted on 11/05/2009 7:58:38 PM PST by SwaggerStick

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To: autumnraine

I agree.

There is a lot of explaining to do. According to reports, this guy was under investigation for disturbing internet posts regarding suicide bombings. Who made the decision that this would be a good guy to deploy into a war theater?


61 posted on 11/05/2009 9:01:55 PM PST by juggernaut
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To: SwaggerStick

Minot AFB 77 - 83


62 posted on 11/05/2009 9:05:17 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: SwaggerStick
One of the first things the General stated at the press conference was that he had personally spoken with the 'president' ....
If Obama is involved with what info gets out to the public, we can expect full "transparency" /sarc


63 posted on 11/05/2009 9:07:37 PM PST by Wolf-Lake
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To: autumnraine

It doesn’t work that way. I’m not sure how you got the idea that every soldier carries around a loaded weapon.


64 posted on 11/05/2009 9:09:52 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: HiramQuick
LOL sounds like fun,,,,,,not.......

My son was a plane captain on an Air Craft Carrier...He said you could always tell the ones that worked in the bowels of the ship...They stuck their heads topside once in a while...and there was nothing like green scrambled eggs, and getting in line for chow with 5000 other guys......(maybe a little hyperbole)

Did a couple of 6 month tours in the Med. playing games with the soviets during the cold war..

Being a proud mother, I got a lovely letter from the navy when they had a plane crash on deck and my son was one of the first to man the hoses..

I asked him what he thought at the time (a 20 year old) and he said "I thought what the fuc* am I doing here, I'm going to die" They fished one of the guys out of the drink and the other one's shoot landed him in the middle of the crash scene...Both survived to talk about it....

65 posted on 11/05/2009 9:17:04 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Patriot2A
My father ( along with almost every male in my family ) served in the Army. He always says the most dangerous man in the world is a former E4 who knows everything.

My grandfather played pro football, and coached high school. He hated pee wee coaches saying they all acted like they were coaching in the super bowl.

My mom is a district Teacher of the Year in one of the largest districts in Texas. My first day of school she told me that teachers are not always right and don't know everything.

My doctor great grandfather said "Remember there is a 50% chance your doctor graduated in the bottom half of his class.

I just can't stand uninformed know it alls, and intend to be a curmudgeon when I get older. ;-0

66 posted on 11/05/2009 9:18:50 PM PST by TWfromTEXAS (Life is the one choice that pro choicers will not support.)
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To: All

Lots of arm chair quarterbacking going on around here. Geez, sound like a bunch of spoiled libs speculating on loss of human life. Let this thing get sorted out.


67 posted on 11/05/2009 9:22:11 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: SoldierDad
The only people on a U.S. military installation allowed to carry firearms is Military Police.

Please tell me you're trolling. If you're not, when did this rule come about?

68 posted on 11/05/2009 9:35:19 PM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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To: TWfromTEXAS
just down the road at a cafeteria in the early 90's one guy killed 23 and wounded another 20. One shot in a crowd can hit 2 or 3. You don't seem to know a damn thing so why not give them a few hours to sort it out.

Um, this guy was on a military base. With soldiers - surrounded by people who have been trained to kill people and break things.

Something is very wrong with this picture. I'm a pacifist, but I do believe in a strong defense. How could one person kill so many of our soldiers?

69 posted on 11/05/2009 9:40:42 PM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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To: goat granny

Your son summed it up about as well as it could be done.

Naval aviators, plane captains, yellow, green, red and puple shirts (purple shirts pass gas with a smile) all have one thing in common. they share inthe most dangerous job in the world ... going to flight ops on a carrier.

Mothers are better off NOT knowing what their sons are doing on a flight deck. Dirty little secret ... it wasn’t uncommon to have a sailor blownover the side during peace time flight ops. .. not often, but enough to remind everyone that they were one step away, or one rollout away from dire straits.

And if you think going over the side is dangerous, you should see the ones that put themselves in harms way as SAR’s (rscue specialists)that go after them.

God bless proud mothers.


70 posted on 11/05/2009 9:45:10 PM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: Billthedrill
It’s hard to believe, but it’s a fact - military bases lock firearms away. I had a private firearm the whole time I was in and it was locked up in one armory or another the entire time.

Oh my. I can't believe we're this stupid, but I'll believe a vet who says it's so.

Um, if there are any real terrorists out there, Open Season has just been demonstrated on US military.

71 posted on 11/05/2009 9:46:47 PM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
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To: Wolf-Lake

Officers in the military are very political...


72 posted on 11/05/2009 9:56:27 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Mike Darancette

Within just a very few minutes of the first report I heard, some damned liberal called the local talk radio station and said it was the “militia”. It must be some kind of a kneejerk thing with them!


73 posted on 11/05/2009 10:36:29 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: autumnraine

Less than 4 mags, but the victims must have been concentrated and trapped. I carry 27 rounds in 2 mags.


74 posted on 11/05/2009 10:39:23 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SoldierDad

one man with an arsenal and not an armed defender in sight, comparing VA tech with what has been alledged in this case to date is not apples to oranges, its apples to cumquats.

1 guy with 2 pistols, on a military base with trained and armed soldiers, military and civilian guards, I am not remotely believing pulled this off single handed.... This just doesn’t pass the smell test to me at all.


75 posted on 11/05/2009 10:40:24 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HiramQuick
***God bless proud mothers.***

And to all that serve in any capacity....God Bless and watch over them........:O)

76 posted on 11/05/2009 10:45:26 PM PST by goat granny
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To: HamiltonJay

“1 guy with 2 pistols, on a military base with trained and armed soldiers, military and civilian guards, I am not remotely believing pulled this off single handed”

I can believe this happened. He’s in a medical center with gobs of people in waiting rooms. All unarmed and probably distracted thinking about anything but being attacked. A target rich environment for sure.

As far as armed military personnel go, the last time I was in a military hospital (Balboa 2 weeks ago), the only armed personnel I saw were at the front gate. None in the waiting rooms or in the pharmacy.


77 posted on 11/05/2009 10:52:46 PM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: HiramQuick

I don’t think LGEN Cone can be considered a REMF. It looks like he’s been operational for most of his military career.


78 posted on 11/05/2009 10:55:19 PM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: Mike Darancette

I think that the FBI on orders from very high up was telling people what to say. This has to have shaken Obama up. The administration was hoping that the violence would come from the right.


Surely the fine organization that made Waco and Filegate possible would not engage in any spin?


79 posted on 11/06/2009 1:16:32 AM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: SwaggerStick

While my son was deployed to Iraq for a year, most of his frustration was with the lack of leadership. When they returned to the states, his commander lost his commission.


80 posted on 11/06/2009 1:57:56 AM PST by grame (To God be the Glory!)
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