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1 posted on 10/29/2009 11:06:35 AM PDT by Bean74
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people are murdered daily for one reason or another, even if he’s killed for being gay, does not make it any more different than people being killed for being a Christian, straight, black, white..etc hate crime is a farce. we need to treat all murders as that... a murder.


2 posted on 10/29/2009 11:09:32 AM PDT by VAFreedom
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Fur Shur, it's more than likely ol'Charlie is going to meet his end simply because he's stupid ~ not because he's gay.
3 posted on 10/29/2009 11:09:55 AM PDT by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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There is a High School “play” many schools around the country are involved in, concerning this tragedy.

My understanding is that, in REALITY, at least one of the convicted killers was homosexual or bisexual. So, is it a “hate crime” when one gay person kills another gay person?

Also, it was a drug deal gone bad the triggered the violence, I think.

If someone kills ME, they should get the same punishment no matter if they love me or hate me.

I do not understand “hate crimes” legislation, at all.


4 posted on 10/29/2009 11:12:06 AM PDT by Kansas58
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Why do I often hear this was from a drug deal gone bad?


5 posted on 10/29/2009 11:12:18 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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And yet they expect me to believe that the abduction, rape, torture, and murder in the Christian/Newsom case was a “robbery gone wrong”.


6 posted on 10/29/2009 11:14:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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Ben Fritzen, a former police detective and one of the lead investigators on the case, told Vargas it was drugs and money that motivated the attack on Shepard

Neither rats nor lamestream ever let facts get in the way .

7 posted on 10/29/2009 11:15:12 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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Gibson is a dunderhead who can’t be expected to contribute any depth or enlightenment to the news. He is what he is. As for hate crime legislation to protect sexual deviants, it needs to be balanced by hate crime legislation to protect the rest of us from the violence of sexual deviants. Better yet, get back to the sanity of having equal protection under the law, and stop trying to engineer society by making laws apply unequally.


8 posted on 10/29/2009 11:16:38 AM PDT by pallis
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I can tell you first hand living in Miami during the cocaine cowboy era, there were plenty of brutal murders then and now that WERE NOT because the idiots were gay. Far from it!

Mathew Shepherd was in with the wrong people at the wrong time.

A friend of mine, Gary Northrop, yes THAT Northrop family was brutally murdered. His head was caved in by an unspeakable beating with his own tools while in his garage. Gay had a bit of an addiction to cocaine. Seems he may have made a bad drug deal. Sound familiar? No, he wasn’t gay, but the folks he owed money too couldn’t have cared less.

Gary was made an example of to many of the young wealthy people in the area that you don’t mess with the local mafioso dealers.


13 posted on 10/29/2009 11:27:28 AM PDT by poobear
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Gibson is an incompetent boob. He probably just read what the writers in ABC's Democrat newsroom put on his teleprompter. Gibson doesn't know anything. I mean, this is the same guy who claimed he wasn't aware of any ACORN scandal, even as the rest of the nation was riveted to it.

And by the way, the sodomite activists have been using crimes against sodomites as fuel for their political agenda for decades, and they are still at it. "Keep investigating, damn it, until you find evidence that homophobia was at the root of this crime!"

Here is a perfect example:

MILITARY: Probe into sailor's death still moving forward

The sodomites will not let up until the Navy says, "Yeah, okay, the sailor was killed because he was gay (even though he wasn't). There... You happy now?"

16 posted on 10/29/2009 11:28:59 AM PDT by Lancey Howard (Go Phillies!)
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Charlie, why was Jesse Dirkheiser murdered?


18 posted on 10/29/2009 11:31:33 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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I think his being gay was likely what motivated Shepherd to make himself vulnerable. He wanted something that day from Aaron McKinney, and it wasn’t drugs. He wanted it bad enough to foolishly put himself in an extremely vulnerable situation, and he paid for it dearly.


19 posted on 10/29/2009 11:32:23 AM PDT by Burkean
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Charlie Gibson: Commie or just stupid? You make the call. I’ll guess “both”.


21 posted on 10/29/2009 11:56:19 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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“I know in the core of my heart it happened because he revealed he was gay.

Common liberal think, "I don't care about the facts. What matters is what I feel is true."

23 posted on 10/29/2009 12:08:01 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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I don’t now how to post an article so check out Cashill Newsletter on how hate crimes work I think WND has the article.


24 posted on 10/29/2009 12:51:56 PM PDT by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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