Posted on 10/23/2009 8:02:19 AM PDT by Grunthor
The U.S. government should abolish its sanctioning of marriage, argued Cass Sunstein, President Obama's regulatory czar.
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Let’s just do away with the law period..
No drivers license.
No hunting/fishing license.
No liquor license.
No license for anything period...
Lets just abolish laws.
Other than State revenue and control of the populace, what is the purpose of these laws?
*exception, I do believe in drivers licenses, they serve a purpose.
“You are advocating leftist causes.”
Overbearing, heavy-handed givernment is a Conservative goal now?
Are you that dense? Law and order is a conservative concept.
You cannot see the difference between Government. And socialism..
There’s a difference, hence the two different words to define the difference between the two.
You’re either too stupid to comprehend that, or, You’re just being deceptive in order to further your leftist agenda.
I’m inclined to believe the latter, nobody could be that dumb.
Law an order. Lets look at liquor license. Back in the day when any moron with absolutely no integrity could distill a batch of rot gut and poison and cripple folks for profit and the hospital had to absorb the costs because the uneducated masses of bums and misfits knew the risks and ignored them, the government had to do something. They passed laws. See how it works?
Back in the day when any moron with absolutely no integrity could distill a batch of rot gut and poison and cripple folks for profit and the hospital had to absorb the costs because the uneducated masses of bums and misfits knew the risks and ignored them, the government had to do something. They passed laws. See how it works?
Back in the day? Do liquor stores make the product that they sell?
No, But they’ll have their license revoked if they sell anything that’s not inspected and approved.. Believe me, they’d buy their products from the local rot gut distributor if they were allowed. They have and did until the license was required. You’re kind of ignorant about things aren’t you? <rhetorical question.......
If true, how is it that unmarried mothers still have their parental rights respected? Or do they suffer from reduced parental rights in our system?
Current contract law does not cover parental rights or children in any way. So what laws would custody arrangements and parental rights rest on if there were no marriage? No body of centuries of common law and marriage law supporting your right to raise your biological child?
To my understanding, couples already use contract law to determine property arrangements and custody arrangements after a split-up. The courts can use the default rules of family law when the couple isn't in agreement, but if the parents come up with their own arrangements those arrangements will be respected by the court as long as they are not against the best interests of the child. So the idea of using contract to determine custody arrangements is not that new.
Without legal marriage, some parents wouldn't choose to enter a contractual arrangement before starting a family. But their situation wouldn't be any worse than parents who are unmarried now. The law has procedures for dealing with the rights of unmarried parents already. In a world without legal marriage, these same procedures could simply be applied for all couples without adequate contractual arrangements. These procedures may be flawed, but those flaws will be with us whether legal marriage exists or not.
If legal marriage no longer existed, what justification would the government have for rewriting the laws regarding parental rights when we already have laws governing those outside of the legal marriage system?
you have misunderstood what I wrote so egregiously that I don’t see any point in trying to clarify. You seem not to understand the difference between your own personal life and a group of people who are trying to re-shape the discourse and the way future generations think.
What I'm saying is that no matter how radical the left gets, no matter what social agenda they push, 99% of 16 year old boys are biologically hardwired to want to see naked women. Nothing radicals can do will change that. That's how God made us.
Saying gay marriage is wrong because it's against God's word is acceptable. As Christians, many of us believe that.
Saying it's wrong because common sense dictates the concept of what a marriage is has remained remarkably stable across most civilizations and thousands of years of human history is also acceptable. Because it's a factual statement of truth.
Saying it's wrong because it will lead to rampant, uncontrolled homosexuality (which was your position) is just a bad argument because the 95% or 99% of the population that is, has been, and always will be straight aren't going to suddenly decide, "Hey, I think I'll get me some of that gay stuff." That makes no sense. The expound upon that, a nation is made up of individual citizens - I don't think my experience of suddenly realizing that women were hot when I was a teenager was unique to me. My point is that even in countries where radical social agendas have prevailed, the *percentage* of the population that is homosexual doesn't increase - they are just open and there is no societal "punishment" for the behavior.
I fully understood what you wrote. I think your logic is flawed. A far more powerful argument is simply that, for Christians, the word of God has a certain standard by which we must live.
My point was that even if the radical liberals win the conversation and future generations are taught that homosexuality is absolutely normal, your position that it will be wildly practiced by most people is just absurd. Virtually all boys, through the genetic and physiological design God put into them, want to bang chicks. That has nothing to do with what society says. We're wired to want to do it.
you are living in your own world and don’t see what is going on — the accepting homosexuality as genetic and normal — it’s even embedded into mainstream tv shows (like Law & Order).
There are many things that happen now that were unthinkable years ago. Our entire society is being re-shaped, and homosexuality is jut one of the battering rams being used. You can congratulate yourself all you want for being straight but you’re missing the point.
You're absolutely correct in your positions. The government should have as little place in our lives as possible.
In one thread, there were a few people that thought I was crazy because I pointed out that we cannot be angry that tax dollars fund offensive images of Jesus Christ in bottles of urine and then in the very next sentence, yell about Catholic charities having to close because they lose their tax funding because they refuse to allow gay couples to adopt.
The point is: The moment you allow the government into your life, you allow them to have a say about what is "normal" and what is "acceptable". The solution is to kick government out of private conduct so it has no say and the decisions about what is right for our lives and family returns to us, our churches, and our local communities. A side benefit of this is that we stop taxing people to pay for a panoply of services supporting pet projects by both sides. Some people simply don't understand that concept at all.
As a Christian who personally believes in Jesus Christ, small government, and a balanced budget, I think these few are no different than the radical left or the cultural division of the Taliban, attempting to use government to impose their own beliefs on everyone else. Not even Christ on the cross did that to the thief that rejected Him as they were dying.
These types of people only support the word "conservative" when it's convenient for our cause. They don't actually adhere to the principles that make it vital to our nation's survival and prosperity. The sad thing is, most of them really don't know the difference - they really cannot grasp the nuance of that and believe in their hearts they are conservative.
P.S.: Many of you are absolutely right that there are a host of government programs and agencies that need to be closed. Why on earth is the agricultural department the same size as it was 50 years ago when farming made up a massive portion of the economy?
Following the commands of God is the desire of all Christians. Obedience to His instructions. He changes not ....
“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, to day, and for ever..”
Hebrews 13:8
To confuse ‘liberalism’ with Chistianity is mixing the scriptures with worldly ideas. My understanding.
To then say this is what God teaches or instructs is amiss. MO
EXACTLY.
The liberal-tarians are often just drooling at the thought of more tax subsidies in the form of deductions instead of ending the whole charade of income tax and its leftist uses as social engineering altogether...
Cultural Marxism always leads to economic Marxism.
Oh, but wait, they want "separation of church and state," so they say???
O.K. Let's use the secular standard of mammalian reproductive biology...
man + woman = baby
Do you know how many children are born to fudge packers every year?
ANSWER = 0
Genesis...
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Leftist homo advocate masquerading as a religionist...
Arnold Schnitzelwagger thinks there is a Taliban wing of the Republican Party...
GENESIS...
“Do you know how many children are born to fudge packers every year?”
What’s that got to do with the post to which I replied? You are correct though, fags don’t create life.
Their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it!
Now, who exactly is pro-life?
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