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Freeper theories on The Kennedy Assassination (Vanity)

Posted on 10/11/2009 7:31:25 PM PDT by Karma Police

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To: WhirlwindAttack

That’s my take.


101 posted on 10/12/2009 4:16:26 PM PDT by bannie
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To: lasereye
"The doctors and nurses who attended the press conference the next day were unanimous that the throat wound was an entry wound. They also reiterated that at the Warren Commission."

That's not true at all.

Most of the doctors never got a good look at the throat wound because they did a tracheotemy in the emergency room, through the existing wound, enlarging it. Anybody that indicated it might be a frontal shot was only speculating.

The medical evidence shows two shots from behind, one a head shot.

102 posted on 10/12/2009 9:10:12 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Ditter
"Who benefited most from his death? LBJ."

Perhaps, but that's not evidence.

103 posted on 10/12/2009 9:11:06 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Reddy
"interesting info that Oswald was interrogated by the CIA two weeks before the assassination."

That was FBI, and it wasn't really an interrogation. The FBI tried to keep occasional tabs on Oswald because he was a returned defector, who had just travelled to Mexico City trying to get into Cuba. They really didn't try all that hard to keep track of him, it was just a routine task for them.

104 posted on 10/12/2009 9:14:48 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Reddy
"And supposedly the planned transfer to the other prison via armored car was with hyper security, yet Ruby just walked right up and shot Oswald? Never thought there was a conspiracy before, but now, Hmmmmm."

Ruby knew his way around the police station and was known by many of the officers. He apparently ducked in when the officer guarding the ramp left his position for a moment.

It was all a matter of luck. Ruby was only in the area because he had other business, and he had no way to know Oswald was being transferred at that moment. The transfer had been delayed. At the last minute it was delayed again because Oswald wanted to go back for his sweater. Ruby couldn't have known that.

He walked in the basement and Oswald walked out the door at almost the same moment. Blind luck.

105 posted on 10/12/2009 9:18:35 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Ditter
"Of course there was more to it than Oswald, a crappy shot with a crappy gun."

Actually, Oswald was a good shot and there was nothing wrong with the gun that kept it from shooting straight.

106 posted on 10/12/2009 9:22:49 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo
Oswald was a C grade shooter and yes the gun was crappy. It is my opinion, yes. It is a fact that Qswald didn’t take the easy shot, when Kennedy was about 40 ft from him and moving toward him. He passed on that shot and later took the view through the trees when he was going away. Why is that? Was he waiting for the other shooter to fire first? We will never know because Jack Ruby took care of that for us. How conveeeeeenient! (spoken like the Chruch Lady)
107 posted on 10/13/2009 6:21:49 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Karma Police

See post 2. The biggest non-mystery in the world. Oswald, whack-job and commie, who tried to assassinate General Edwin Walker earlier, got his chance to go down in history by killing JFK. He was thrilled with the attention, proud as a peacock, until a local well-known attention whore Jack Ruby spoiled his fun.

The gun was fine.
Oswald was a very good shot, a Marine sharpshooter and a better shot than 90% of the population, and the shot wasn’t especially difficult.

Despite all the nonsense you will read to the contrary, so many myths, so little time. Oswald, Oswald, Oswald, there is your answer, there is no other.


108 posted on 10/13/2009 6:28:39 AM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Ditter
"Oswald was a C grade shooter and yes the gun was crappy."

Oswald scored "Marksman" in the Marines. The highest of three classifications.

It wouldn't matter if the rifle was 100 years old and covered in rust (it was neither) if it could get those three shots off accurately. It could. It was tested after the shooting and was found to be accurate.

"It is a fact that Qswald didn’t take the easy shot, when Kennedy was about 40 ft from him and moving toward him. He passed on that shot and later took the view through the trees when he was going away. Why is that?"

It wasn't necessarily the easy shot. When the limo was travelling past his position, at the time he did shoot, it was almost traveling directly away from him, with very little sideways motion in his field of view. That wasn't true earlier. We also can't put ourselves in his state of mind at that moment and know how he was feeling. Questions about why he didn't do one thing or another aren't really evidentiary questions.

"We will never know because Jack Ruby took care of that for us."

True. But regardless of how suspicious it seems at first glance, the evidence shows Ruby's crime was one of opportunity and luck. It couldn't have been planned in advance.

109 posted on 10/13/2009 6:55:44 AM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo
Oswald was NOT a good shot. Expert is the top, Sharpshooter is 2nd and Marksmans (Oswald) is barley passing.

Look, you can throw all if that at me that you want to, the fact remains that LBJ was a slimy politician who wanted to be president in the worst possible way and removing Kennedy was the ONLY way he could ever accomplish that. After he became president he was in control of the investigation and the Warren Commission and everyone knew he couldn't be crossed. If you want to believe that fine but I am never going to believe it. Maybe it was best for the country to have a made up story rather than blame Cuba or the FBI or Russia. Oswald was convenient but I will never believe he acted alone.

110 posted on 10/13/2009 7:24:10 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
"Oswald was NOT a good shot. Expert is the top, Sharpshooter is 2nd and Marksmans (Oswald) is barley passing."

I made a mistake, relying on memory. Oswald scored a "Sharpshooter" in the Marines, which is the middle category. You are correct that Expert is the top and Marksman the bottom.

In any case, he was not a bad shot.

"Look, you can throw all if that at me that you want to, the fact remains that LBJ was a slimy politician who wanted to be president in the worst possible way and removing Kennedy was the ONLY way he could ever accomplish that."

There is a long list of people that had a supposed motive to kill JFK. Motive does not make one guilty. To say that anyone was responsible, LBJ or anyone else, you have to be able to show an evidentiary tie between that person and the shooter. There is absolutely none to LBJ.

"After he became president he was in control of the investigation and the Warren Commission and everyone knew he couldn't be crossed."

In fact, he exerted no control over the Commission once it was formed. Warren, the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court would have tolerated none even if it had been attempted.

"If you want to believe that fine but I am never going to believe it."

It shouldn't be about what one wants to believe. It should be about following the evidence.

111 posted on 10/13/2009 8:35:43 AM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo
You are trying to tell me that LBJ had NO control over the Warren Commission?

Give me a break......... LBJ had control over everything including how his biscuits and gravy were prepared in the WH kitchen.

I am not a lawyer and this is not a court room. This is FR and this is my opinion, if you don't believe it or like hearing me say it....... then don't listen!

112 posted on 10/13/2009 8:49:11 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
"You are trying to tell me that LBJ had NO control over the Warren Commission?"

That is correct.

"Give me a break......... LBJ had control over everything including how his biscuits and gravy were prepared in the WH kitchen."

The White House chef worked for him. The members of the Warren Commission did not.

"I am not a lawyer and this is not a court room. This is FR and this is my opinion, if you don't believe it or like hearing me say it....... then don't listen!"

Rational thinking is not limited to court rooms. A rational person follows facts and evidence, not presuppositions and biases.

113 posted on 10/13/2009 9:05:40 AM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

LOL! Whatever.......


114 posted on 10/13/2009 9:07:45 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: SevenofNine

My Dad who is now gone spent yars reading every thing he could about it. I was only 3 at the time so only remember the clips on TV but he always said the same thing you did except added the “Unions” to it too.


115 posted on 10/13/2009 9:21:11 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Karma Police
For balance you might want to read "Best Evidence" by David S. Lifton or "Crossfire" by Jim Marrs.

I wonder if we will ever really know who killed Kennedy.

116 posted on 10/13/2009 9:30:22 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Churchillspirit
I wonder if we will ever really know who killed Kennedy.

Yes. Lee Harvey Oswald.

117 posted on 10/13/2009 9:34:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Karma Police

It was a tragic nexus of an opportunity for Oswald to kill a president. Nothing more.


118 posted on 10/13/2009 9:57:24 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Karma Police

It was Colonel Mustard on the Grassy Knoll. He threw a candlestick that was subsequently airbrushed out of the Zapruder film.


119 posted on 10/13/2009 9:58:47 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: mlo
True. But regardless of how suspicious it seems at first glance, the evidence shows Ruby's crime was one of opportunity and luck. It couldn't have been planned in advance.

Doesn't every two-bit, low-on-the-totem-pole, wanna-be famous 'mob' hitter take their dog along to silence another two-bit, low-on-the-totem-pole, wanna-be famous Marxist?

120 posted on 10/13/2009 10:04:07 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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