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To: J. Neil Schulman

You think the holocaust is not unique?

Please describe to me a genocidal event in history where people were systematically rounded up throughout an entire continent using modern communication and mechanization, shipped like commercial product to multiple centralized hubs to be processed as cattle in meat packing and slaughtered by the millions in a matter of a few short years.

My great grandparents came to the USA to escape the Armenian genocide, and even then, it doesn’t compare in any way. What happened in Armenia is NOT unique in history.

What happened in Cambodia was NOT unique.

What happened to Jews in the Nazi controlled empire WAS unique. This was the prediction by Winston Churchill in his famous “Finest Hour” speech as “the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.” Even though the holocaust had been in full swing for at least four or five years at that point, it wasn’t generally understood for what it was.

You are DEAD wrong on this as well.


52 posted on 09/27/2009 6:50:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (You cannot reap the benefits right now of the planning ahead you didn't do in the past.)
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To: rlmorel

Disagree.

Whether modern methods were used or not makes little difference to those who are murdered.

At the height of the Nazi Empire it controlled approximately 12M soldiers. To kill 6M Jews every other soldier would have had to fire one shot.

That they used “modern methods” rather than the Roman/Mongol methods of just having the army kill everybody was largely a result of the detrimental effect using the army had on discipline and morale.

Shipping people all over Europe using transport desperately needed for military purposes was about as inefficient a murder method as can be imagined. Much simpler to just kill them where they were.

I am curious about something. Exactly why do you consider “modern methods” so much more heinous than the old-fashioned version of massacre?


63 posted on 09/27/2009 7:25:27 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: rlmorel
Please describe to me a genocidal event in history where people were systematically rounded up throughout an entire continent using modern communication and mechanization, shipped like commercial product to multiple centralized hubs to be processed as cattle in meat packing and slaughtered by the millions in a matter of a few short years.

The Great Purge?

Of course, these people were selected for class and/or political reasons, not "racial" ones.

Somebody please explain to me why killing 6M "enemies of the people" is any less wicked than killing 6M "racial enemies of der volk."

66 posted on 09/27/2009 7:28:47 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: rlmorel

rlmorel wrote:

“Please describe to me a genocidal event in history where people were systematically rounded up throughout an entire continent using modern communication and mechanization, shipped like commercial product to multiple centralized hubs to be processed as cattle in meat packing and slaughtered by the millions in a matter of a few short years.”

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn calculated the death count of Soviet victims who were shipped to gulags and labor camps at 60 million — ten times the number of Jewish victims of Hitler. The events overlap so similar “modern communication and mechanization” were used in both cases.

JNS


128 posted on 09/27/2009 2:30:12 PM PDT by J. Neil Schulman
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