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DOJ to judge: dump birthers' suit
Politico ^ | 09/07/2009 | Josh Gerstein

Posted on 09/07/2009 6:09:15 AM PDT by Free America52

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To: Free America52
Just show the dang long form Birth Certificate! You know, the one with baby foot prints, Doctors Names and signitures and hospital or location of birth.

The real "Birthers" are the people who are not demanding Obama prove his eligibility. They don't demand it, because they believe he can't!

341 posted on 09/07/2009 3:34:12 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: thecodont

Yes, as far as I know.

I’m just a-wonderin’ how some of the things people here say about Judge Carter will change if he doesn’t produce the results some want.


342 posted on 09/07/2009 3:37:42 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Free America52; All

You gotta read these 3 web pages concerning a writ quo warranto - it may be the only way to get him to pony up the documents or risk losing his office:

Part 1

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/quo-warranto-legal-brief-part-1/

Part 2

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/quo-warranto-legal-brief-part-2-the-federal-quo-warranto-statute-is-the-only-constitutional-means-of-removing-a-sitting-president-other-than-impeachment/

Part 3

http://www.uslaw.com/library/Obama_Citizenship/QUO_WARRANTO_LEGAL_BRIEF_Part_STANDINGTRIAL_JURY_HISTORY_STATUTE_SEPAR.php?item=409426

Interesting stuff ...


343 posted on 09/07/2009 3:38:09 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: El Sordo; Non-Sequitur
N-S, I for one appreciate the work you have done here.

And just what work is that???

And BTW, appreciation does not pay the bills. He better be getting his paychecks on time and I trust it will be time and a half for his work this Labor Day.

344 posted on 09/07/2009 3:40:47 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Letsd try again. THE DOJ is an attorney for the defence of a government office.....Do you understand that?


345 posted on 09/07/2009 3:41:18 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: El Sordo
Well, don't you feel superior.

This would end tomorrow if Obama released his bona fides.

That he has spent $2 million on private attorneys, much of it illegally, and is now relying on DOJ attorneys to hide his background says this guy has something to hide.

Just ask yourself, how, in the millions of kids that went to school in Hawaii, did Obama’s kindergarten records just happen to get lost?

That's just one of the hundreds of legitimate questions this guy needs to answer.

346 posted on 09/07/2009 3:41:30 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: El Sordo; Non-Sequitur

Ditto. I appreciate your logic, N-S.

N-S makes logical arguments on this subject. He’s incorrect, but his arguments are logical and should be considered. :)

He will say the same about my arguments - they’re logical but ultimately incorrect. We agree to disagree, but we do so without calling each other names. It just isn’t necessary.


347 posted on 09/07/2009 3:42:41 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: hoosiermama

Clearly, I understand that fact, since I’ve posted it multiple times on this thread. Asking me if I understand that is insulting.

If you want to have a discussion, be polite. Otherwise, I won’t converse with you.


348 posted on 09/07/2009 3:45:05 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
Aside from the portion regarding John McCain being born "on a US Military base", this video is spot on:

Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

349 posted on 09/07/2009 3:45:18 PM PDT by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: hoosiermama
THE DOJ is an attorney for the defence of a government office.....Do you understand that?

Are you suggesting that if a fraud were perpetrated before Obama had the office, Obama now has the benefit of civil servant lawyers?

Truly, we have entered the Twilight one.

The guy commits a crime and then has the government defend him?

As FU'd up as everything around this guy is, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he gets away with it.
350 posted on 09/07/2009 3:45:31 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: MHGinTN; Non-Sequitur

I have repeatedly seen you browbeat other posters until the Mods had to step in and tell you to back off, that’s not debate or discussion, it’s borderline fascism and it reflect back on anyone that wants to see this man exposed for what he is.

So I got your own personal code word wrong, you treat anyone that doesn’t toe your line as if they don’t have the right to be heard.

In fact you are begining to sound just like one of Non Sequitur’s favorite targets oNlY WitHOut The wilD CaPiTOlizaTiOn

Free Mortie!


351 posted on 09/07/2009 3:46:35 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: Beckwith

And for NS s/he has gone on for years trolling way before Obama was on the scene.


352 posted on 09/07/2009 3:49:49 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Just trying to figure out where you lose the logic of the explanation: Do you understand that the DOJ does NOT defend the person in the office for their personal behavior?


353 posted on 09/07/2009 3:50:37 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Beckwith

NO, Just trying to figure out where a freeper loses contact with why the DOJ should not be defending BO in this case.


354 posted on 09/07/2009 3:52:11 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Beckwith; All

THE DOJ is an attorney for the defence of a government office.....Do you understand that?

Are you suggesting that if a fraud were perpetrated before Obama had the office, Obama now has the benefit of civil servant lawyers?

Truly, we have entered the Twilight one.

The guy commits a crime and then has the government defend him?

As FU’d up as everything around this guy is, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he gets away with it.

***

Well, someone could really roil things up if they request that Holder institute a motion for a writ quo warranto ...

If he doesn’t do it, they can ask the same of the U.S. Attorney for DC ...

Its an either/or deal - only one has to consent ... Which would be funny - since the Justice Dept. would be prosecuting it’s own boss (Obama) ...

If neither consent, a third party can go ahead and file the motion on behalf of the United States ...

No need for the AG or the US Attorney, since they had their chance ...


355 posted on 09/07/2009 3:58:31 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56
Holder would be required to ask for a Special Prosecutor...He would have a conflict of interest because he was appointed by BO.
356 posted on 09/07/2009 4:08:39 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

Fair enough.

The DOJ represents the government in all legal matters. The DOJ must defend federal law. The DOJ must also defend the interests of the government.

Personal actions, to me, would reflect actions taken by someone that are outside of or irrelevant to one’s official duties. So yes, the DOJ would not be expected to defend those actions.

However, one’s negligence in performing one’s duties would not be a personal action because the action/inaction is directly relevant to one’s official duties. Negligence is the failure to act when one is obligated to do so.


357 posted on 09/07/2009 4:10:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: Uncle Chip

“And BTW, appreciation does not pay the bills. He better be getting his paychecks on time and I trust it will be time and a half for his work this Labor Day.”

A fine example.

You do not agree what his ideas. And appear to believe that the only way he could present the conclusions he does is if he was paid to do so.

Not a different assessment of the facts. Not different opinions arrived at in good faith. Not simply being mistaken, the result of unclear thinking, ignorant or just plain old wrong.

Instead he must have been paid to says what he does.

How does that bring anything to the discussion?

Can you imagine in any way that his comments can be taken at face value as having been arrived at honestly or in good faith?


358 posted on 09/07/2009 4:10:37 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Candor7

Indeed!


359 posted on 09/07/2009 4:14:05 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: SteamShovel

every citizen of the united states is injured by an unqualified man as president......theOne and only’s DOJ is full of it.


360 posted on 09/07/2009 4:15:23 PM PDT by tioga
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