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To: rolling_stone
From U.S. vs Wong Kim Ark....

Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States. His allegiance to the United States is direct and immediate, and although but local and temporary, continuing only so long as he remains within our territory, is yet, in the words of Lord Coke, in Calvin’s Case, 7 Rep. 6a, “strong enough to make a natural subject, for if he hath issue here, that issue is a natural-born subject;” and his child, as said by Mr. Binney in his essay before quoted, “if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle.”

Relevant quotes excerpted and with parenthetical remarks....

“for if he (0bama Sr. in the case under discussion) hath issue (a child for those of you in Rio Linda) here, that issue (Barrack Hussein Obama) is a natural born subject”.

268 posted on 08/27/2009 1:35:41 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: allmendream

Yes, he’s a natural-born subject. That’s the problem.


270 posted on 08/27/2009 1:41:51 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: allmendream
You have misinterpreted the quote. Clearly a distinction is made between 'citizen' and '"natural born child of a citizen". Both are citizens but only one is a natural born citizen.

See also:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/justice-horace-gray-clearly-indicated-wong-kim-ark-was-not-a-natural-born-citizen/

273 posted on 08/27/2009 1:57:40 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: allmendream
Nice try, that's one discussion, not the majority decision:

The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of the submission of this case to the decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties, were to present for determination the single question, stated at the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the emperor of China, but have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=169&invol=649

275 posted on 08/27/2009 2:06:07 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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