Posted on 08/26/2009 12:40:24 PM PDT by kellynla
If Obama's father was a Kenyan then how could Hussein be eligible to be POTUS?
SR511
Sorry, but the US vs Ark case clearly defines the named as being “natural born”; not merely a U.S. citizen, but specifically says “natural born”.
There is absolutely no legal requirement that one have two U.S. citizens to be natural born.
One merely has to be a U.S. citizen at birth.
Ah ha!
There is no law that defines what “is” is either but I think we all know what it means.
Got something that's actually binding?
Please provide us stupid FReepers your proof he isn’t a foreigner.
So then the 98 U S Senators who signed Senate Resolution 511 were crazy and insane????
You are aware, are you not, that McCain was not born in the U.S.? So you're referencing a non-binding Senate resolution does nothing to support the claim that the definition of a natural-born citizen is one born in the U.S. of two U.S. citizen parents.
If our law makers are so inconsequential, just throught out then entire legislative branch. Oops, nope, can’t do that because of that pesky Constitution.
It's more than binding. It's a resolution -- an official decision by unanimous consent of the Senate that spent months examining all those "binding" documents that affected it.
Their decision flies in the face of your denials -- so deal with it.
You are aware, are you not, that McCane isn’t POTUS. Hey, just trying to play by your rules.
I saw that, too. Yet, he continues on. So what gives?
I suspect he put that on his page for kicks.
By making them up as you go along? On the other hand, why should this be any different than the rest of Birther logic?
I suspected that, too. He’s around a whole lot...
You are aware are you not that John McCain was born in a U S territory and you are aware that the Senate was aware of this when they drew up the Resoution, are you not???
So you're referencing a non-binding Senate resolution does nothing to support the claim that the definition of a natural-born citizen is one born in the U.S. of two U.S. citizen parents.
Oh really. It bound the mouths of 98 Senators regarding his natural born status. That's an accomplishment.
It was a "resolution" which means a "decision" -- kind of like those things issued by courts of law that are supposed to be binding.
And it was a reslution based upon months of study of the issue, the Constitution, the definition of natural born citizen, case law, etc. And their conclusion was that McCain was a natural born citizen because he was born on U S territory and both parents were citizens -- BOTH PARENTS.
Where is Obama's SR511???
His mother was too young (under the age of 18) to confer citizenship.
The term “natural born citizen” is well understood and defined, particularly within the context of the founders time and writings.
Arguing that because its not spelled out with an explicite definition in the Constitution means it has no meaning other than what its interpreted to be today is ludicrous.
A native born citizen is not the same as a natural born citizen, and you and others idiotic claims that the founders of this nation, whos grasp of language was far superior to 99% of people walking around today would use these two terms interchangably is nonsensical and flat out laughable.
Perhaps this simplifies it enough or you:
Natural-Born Citizen Defined
One universal point most all early publicists agreed on was natural-born citizen must mean one who is a citizen by no act of law. If a person owes their citizenship to some act of law (naturalization for example), they cannot be considered a natural-born citizen. This leads us to defining natural-born citizen under the laws of nature - laws the founders recognized and embraced.
Under the laws of nature, every child born requires no act of law to establish the fact the child inherits through nature his/her father’s citizenship as well as his name (or even his property) through birth. This law of nature is also recognized by law of nations. Sen. Howard said the citizenship clause under the Fourteenth Amendment was by virtue of “natural law and national law.”
The advantages of Natural Law is competing allegiances between nations are avoided, or at least with those nations whose custom is to not make citizens of other countries citizens without their consent. Any alternations or conflicts due to a child’s natural citizenship are strictly a creature of local municipal law. In the year 1866, the United States for the first time adopted a local municipal law under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes that read: “All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”
Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
Fauxbama is not a natural born citizen, he cannot be. He may or may not be a native born citizen, but that is not remotely the same thing.
Yep --
I think WorldNetDaily is missing the boat here. They should start putting up billboards saying:
WHERE'S OBAMA's SR511???
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