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To: Brytani; SatinDoll
“That is the problem, we have no definitive case to point to that says specifically a Natural Born Citizen is a person who is born on American Soil, from two parents who were also born on American soil.”

My understand is a Natural Born Citizen (which refers to the office of President only) is one who is born on US soil from parents who are US citizens. In other words, the parents must be US citizens, not natural born US citizens themselves.

If Obama’s father had become a US citizen PRIOR to Obama’s birth, then Obama would be a Natural Born Citizen IF of course he was also born on US soil, ie Hawaii.

151 posted on 07/30/2009 10:47:57 AM PDT by seekthetruth ("See You In DC From 9/11 - 9/13 At Our National Freeper Tea Party Convention!")
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To: seekthetruth

Seek,

You’re exactly right. That is the standard most of us base our understanding of the criteria for NBC; as it was the standard for our founders, justices and others who wrote on the issue throughout the countries history.

The problem lies with the fact that the USSC has never made a ruling explicitly defining what exactly is the legal standard for a NBC. We have various rulings on citizenship issues, but not a single one that speaks specifically to the issue.

We have two failings in our election system that allowed an usurper into office.

1. We have a requirement within the Constitution requiring that a candidate for President and VP must meet the criteria of NBC yet we have no system in place nor an overseeing body whose job is is to verify a candidate meets the constitutional standard.

2. Not having a specific ruling by the USSC. This has allowed the States and our elected officials to determine on their own who meets the qualification without having a standard to go by.

It took Obama running for President for us to learn opening up a very scary scenario and setting a prescience we do not want established.

As it stands right now, a person who freely admits to having been born outside the US, who has not reached the age of 35 could demand their name be placed on the ballot of each 50 state. This person can easily use Obama’s ability to qualify as the basis for any legal actions that would be taken against the person.

Each State MUST before 2010 change their State constitution to state that a person must prove they are a NBC and meet the other Constitutional qualifications along with setting up a person or Dept that oversees the vetting of candidates.


155 posted on 07/30/2009 11:05:56 AM PDT by Brytani (DC Freeper Convention and National Tea Party - FreepMail Me for rooms and convention info!)
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