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To: hennie pennie

I have read recently that the trouble with the bees is that many beekeepers are greedy and take the honey from the hive in the winter, and replace it with high-fructose corn syrup and water. It has a substance in it that the bees either die from or hate, and the hive collapses. One beekeeper says he takes wild hives out of buildings and the bees are quite healthy. He claims the bees are escaping from their tame hives and building new wild ones away from the HFCS.

If I weren’t allergic to bee stings I’d start keeping bees myself, now that I know what the problem is. I love those little guys.


3,897 posted on 10/29/2009 9:22:15 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion; nw_arizona_granny
Me too, I was horrified to read a news article that HFCS might be behind the global bee colony collapse.

I am also very concerned about honey, itself.

Is honey made from a hive where the bees are fed HFCS safe to eat?

I don't know.

Does anyone know??

Honey itself, in its original form normally has so much fructose, that I avoid it -- but I have glass jars of honey in my survival stash, because honey is supposed to have an indefinite shelf life, (like cornstarch & cocoa, it doesn't go bad.)

Generally, in day to day life, the only reason I would knowingly consume any honey would be either due to an intense craving specifically for honey, or else if I had a very bad sore throat, I'd sip strong black tea with honey & a bit of milk.

When doctors start commenting that obesity in INFANTS cannot possibly be due to lack of exercise, nor due to television or to playing online games inside all day long .... lol .... it's obvious that something major has changed in the basic food supply when little babies are also sufferring from obesity.

When granny and I were young kids, we might know of maybe 3 adults in the entire neighborhood who were overweight, and maybe one who was actually obese. Those "overweight" adults of my childhood would be considered THIN today, I'm not exaggerating.

As the NORM, people were skinny. Nowadays what we consider to be a thin person and/or one of "normal weight" in today's terms ... would definitely have been considered hefty way back when.

If you watch movies made PRE-1935, you'll see that the only big people are the one or two cast to be comic buffoons. Everybody in real life looked thin, just like all the actors in early movies. Almost everybody. For instance, Oliver Hardy would NOT look obese in this century, but his weight was supposed be a big joke in the old days. And today Stan Laurel would be considered a victim of starvation, LOL

3,900 posted on 10/29/2009 10:41:18 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I love those little guys too. When gardening on a hot sunny day, they completely ignore me in their quest for pollen and nectar, literally crawling over my hands to reach the next blossom. We had 20-30 hives for years and sold honey as a hobby until bears did a job on them one year and then with the advent of Sevin, neighboring farmers led to the decimation of the rest of our hives. We never fed syrup to our bees. We just sprinkled sugar in front of the hives on a sunny day and let the bees take what they wanted/needed.

On another note, hubby decided to just add a small amount of honey to his cider and see what happens. The county extension had no info to give out as they were afraid of contamination using a wooden keg. I believe some of today’s health problems are caused by all the fear of germs. Today’s children have never been exposed to the germs that we were exposed to years ago. We drank raw milk, ate foods that hadn’t been properly refrigerated and built up a resistance to germs. Just my opinion.


3,919 posted on 10/29/2009 4:15:09 PM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

One beekeeper says he takes wild hives out of buildings and the bees are quite healthy. He claims the bees are escaping from their tame hives and building new wild ones away from the HFCS.<<<

Makes sense, after months of bees getting in my house, haven’t had one in a month or more, either someone moved the hive or they died.


3,929 posted on 10/29/2009 4:46:08 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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