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To: x; chevydude26

The natural born citizen controversy boils down to two issues, no matter who or what you believe.

1) Under the laws in place in 1961, Obama’s mother could have obtained a legal and valid birth certificate for him from the State of Hawaii whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii. This fact alone makes both Obama’s online, short-form COLB and Governor Lingle’s official statement absolutely irrelevant.

2) Barack H. Obama was a British citizen when he was born and he openly admits that. This fact alone makes it absolutely irrelevant where Obama was born as he “may not” be a natural born citizen as intended by the Constitutional requirement.

All this chatter about Obama producing the original, long-form birth certificate is missing the point. His long-form birth certificate could state that he was born in Honolulu as claimed and that still wouldn’t resolve the two issues noted above.


116 posted on 07/18/2009 2:25:40 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I don’t think it misses the point and yours is very salient.

Rather the other chatter establishes the guy as a fraud and neuters “This whole about Obama is a Fairy tale”. At least that is what a past perjurer said.


121 posted on 07/18/2009 2:48:49 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The “natural citizen” question will soon be decided by the hand picked Sotomayor. You get one guess how she’ll see it. Hussein knows this is bound to hit the fan one day and he’s rapidly getting all his minions in place before it does. It’s also why he’s been shoving all these bills through so quickly because the more times he’s signed his name the more the sheeple will whine about “but, can’t we just let this be swept under the rug because it would be too much trouble to press the reset button.”


133 posted on 07/18/2009 8:05:29 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
2) Barack H. Obama was a British citizen when he was born and he openly admits that. This fact alone makes it absolutely irrelevant where Obama was born as he “may not” be a natural born citizen as intended by the Constitutional requirement.

If he was born here, he's a US citizen. There have been other presidents who had non-citizen parents, and they weren't disqualified from holding the office.

Herbert Hoover's mother was Canadian. Woodrow Wilson's was British (Scottish), as was Chester Arthur's father (Irish). James Buchanan's parents were also Irish-born non-citizens.

If Obama wasn't born here he's in trouble, but we aren't going to start disqualifying those who had one non-citizen parent from becoming president. If his father had been a part of the Kenyan (or British) government when he came to the US, your case would be stronger.

146 posted on 07/20/2009 4:38:20 PM PDT by x
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