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To: BuckeyeTexan
2) Barack H. Obama was a British citizen when he was born and he openly admits that. This fact alone makes it absolutely irrelevant where Obama was born as he “may not” be a natural born citizen as intended by the Constitutional requirement.

If he was born here, he's a US citizen. There have been other presidents who had non-citizen parents, and they weren't disqualified from holding the office.

Herbert Hoover's mother was Canadian. Woodrow Wilson's was British (Scottish), as was Chester Arthur's father (Irish). James Buchanan's parents were also Irish-born non-citizens.

If Obama wasn't born here he's in trouble, but we aren't going to start disqualifying those who had one non-citizen parent from becoming president. If his father had been a part of the Kenyan (or British) government when he came to the US, your case would be stronger.

146 posted on 07/20/2009 4:38:20 PM PDT by x
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To: x
If he was born here, he's a US citizen. There have been other presidents who had non-citizen parents, and they weren't disqualified from holding the office.

Wrong. True. Irrelevant.

James Buchanan's parents were also Irish-born non-citizens.

The first President we must examine then was James Buchanan, 14th President of the United States. He was born on April 23, 1791 in Mercersburg, Pennsylvania. He just missed out on the grandfather clause as the Constitution was adopted on September 17, 1787, by the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia. Buchanan was also the only President from Pennsylvania and the only President never to marry. His mother Elizabeth Speer was born in Pennsylvania. His father James Buchanan emigrated to the United States from Ireland in 1783. It was an interesting year for the United States as the Treaty of 1783 was signed between the US and Great Britain. Colonists chose to be United States citizens and by virtue of the Treaty, Great Britain recognized those former subjects as United States citizens. Before the Constitution, United States citizenship was conferred on citizens by the States. When the Constitution was ratified, each citizen of a state became a citizen of the United States. No formal naturalization was needed. On June 21, 1788 the Constitution was ratified. The Buchanans were citizens of Pennsylvania and therefore James Sr. was a citizen of the United States. When James Jr. was born in Pennsylvania he was therefore a natural born citizen, born on United States soil to two US citizen parents. - Leo Donofrio, 12/5/2008 5:34AM

Herbert Hoover's mother was Canadian.

Hoover was born in Iowa, 1874. He was the 31st President. His father Jesse was from Ohio, a US citizen. His mother Hulda Minthorn was from Ontario, Canada. They were married in 1870. According to the 1855 act, which was in effect until 1922, Hoover's mother became a US citizen automatically when she married Jesse. So, Hoover was born in the US, both parents were citizens – natural born citizen. - Leo Donofrio, 12/5/2008 5:34AM

Woodrow Wilson's was British (Scottish)

Born December 28, 1856 – the 28th President, born in Staunton, Virginia. Wilson's mother was from Carlisle, England. His father was a US citizen from Ohio. Wilson's mother gained US citizenship when she married his father according to a congressional Act of February 1855, which stated, "any woman who might lawfully be naturalized under existing laws, married, or shall be married to a citizen of the United States, shall be deemed and taken to be a citizen. [Act of February 10, 1855, 10 Stat. 604, section 2] This was called derivative citizenship. This act was enacted in 1855. Woodrow Wilson was born in December 1856. He was born in the US, both parents were US citizens – natural born citizen. - Leo Donofrio, 12/5/2008 5:34AM

... British (Scottish), as was Chester Arthur's father (Irish).

Chester Arthur was not a natural born citizen either. He usurped the office of the president. New information about his citizenship and that of his father was discovered in December 2008 by Leo Donofrio. Historians have confirmed Donofrio's discoveries and validated them. A new book is forthcoming on Arthur's chicanery. Donofrio's research is too long to post, so here's a link.

If Obama wasn't born here he's in trouble, but we aren't going to start disqualifying those who had one non-citizen parent from becoming president. If his father had been a part of the Kenyan (or British) government when he came to the US, your case would be stronger.

Disqualifying those individuals was absolutely, positively, without a doubt the intent of the founding fathers. My case is rock solid, thanks to Leo Donofrio's hard work.

147 posted on 07/20/2009 6:17:50 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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