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To: usmcobra
I’m not the one here that is daring to suggest that our armed forces should obey any order Obama gives with out question.

Neither am I. Are you being deliberately dishonest?

As part of professional ethics training in the military I was trained to determine what constitutes a legal order and a legal order must come from someone that is in your legal authority, plain and simple.

Is it illegal for the Army to order this man to Afghanistan? For them to order anybody to Afghanistan?

All us little fellas in the Marines know that if we obey an illegal order from someone who shouldn’t be in our chain of command we are just as guilty as anyone else in the chain of command that follows it.

Are you suggesting that the entire military chain of command is committing a crime by passing on illegal orders to fight the war in Afghanistan? If so, do you think the military should stop fighting there immediately? And if not, doesn't your whole argument collapse?

90 posted on 07/14/2009 5:28:54 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

“Are you suggesting that the entire military chain of command is committing a crime by passing on illegal orders to fight the war in Afghanistan?”
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The Democrat Party, the Ds in Congress, the SCOTUS, et al, just may be committing crimes by covering up the very legitimate requests of the American people to know the true status and standing of OUR president. If they, and we all have to provide our status and standing, why doesn’t this supposed president need to do the same. All of those people on my list, have taken and oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

In my view, for them to knowingly not do so, for political expediency is CRIMINAL.

This Major had more guts than most of us will ever dream of..


101 posted on 07/14/2009 5:41:54 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back! [I hate the TRAITORS in the enemedia.])
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To: r9etb
"It is NOT up to this soldier to decide what orders he is or is not going to follow"

Your words not mine, you suggested that This Major should not get to decide what orders he must follow.

It is a soldiers duty to obey those orders he knows are legal and refuse to follow those he knows are not, and under the UCMJ if he is right in refusing such an order he will be cleared of all charges against him.

And if he is wrong under the UCMJ he can be confined or even executed for missing Movement in time of war, and he knows this!

In the military we are taught that we have that protection under the UCMJ, that if we can prove an order is illegal that we will be cleared. I have personally refused an order before and been exonerated although it never went further than standing up before my superior officer and explaining my reasoning, he agreed with me, and nothing happened, it was a case where I made a decision and stuck to my guns.

103 posted on 07/14/2009 5:44:43 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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