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There once was a time when many white and black southerners joined forces to defeat the Confederacy. It is too bad that too many Americans of all backgrounds do not know this under-reported tale of cooperation and goodwill for a noble end.
1 posted on 07/14/2009 5:45:11 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Interesting.....I seem to recall Ken Burns calling it "The Kingdom of Jones"....I always liked that.

I may be remembering it wrong, though.

2 posted on 07/14/2009 5:48:38 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

A Lincoln Republican married openly to a black woman. STOP. We all know that democrats are the all loving of all races. Just ask Senator Byrd.


3 posted on 07/14/2009 5:56:51 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I attended school with several of Newt’s great, great, great grand kids. Yolanda was HOT!


4 posted on 07/14/2009 5:56:57 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
There was also was a time when many white and black Southerners joined forces to defeat the usurpations of a illegal and immoral attack on their Southern homeland.

It is too bad that too many Americans of all backgrounds think it was all about slavery. It was not.

While slavery was obviously a negative and an evil, I find the true nobility in giving your life for your family, community, values, and culture.

5 posted on 07/14/2009 5:58:53 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Buy Lots Of Ammo Today: BLOAT)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
There once was a time when many white and black southerners joined forces to defeat the Confederacy. It is too bad that too many Americans of all backgrounds do not know this under-reported tale of cooperation and goodwill for a noble end.

A bit of a stretch. People like Jones just wanted to be left alone, not defeat the Confederacy. "Kingdom of Jones" suggests coordination with the North, but there simply isn't any proof of that.

6 posted on 07/14/2009 6:02:09 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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10 posted on 07/14/2009 6:38:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
I've read all the Newt books going way back when they weren't so favorable to Newt...a multiple murderer.

He didn't want to fight for the south, fair enough and he had a rag tag band of ruffians who were deserters and dodgers and whatnot but he was hardly a Mosby figure from the opposite side. They were bandits/raiders hiding out though new revisionist writers may wish to paint Knight as something else and may well find someone in Hollywood to make a myth movie for them it will remain wishful thinking.

There are still quite a few mulattoes from that era...the Moffatts for example...some of whom were quite fetching as I recall. Many passed as white ( a lady I knew....i wanted her to be my Summer of 42 fantasy..lol....very pretty) and many did not.

I think some of the Jones mulattoes settled down around Mobile north of there near Creola along with many other mulattoes from that Deep South area.

My kinfolks come from above that area by half a day's buggy ride north around Scott and Smith counties but Sullivan's Hollow down towards Mt Olive is fairly close. Many hid below there in the Leaf River swamp even before Newt did.

Jones county has had a vexed history of sorts culminating with the Masonite union violence in the 60s and Laurrel was known for corrupt politics back in an era when corrupt politics in rural Mississippi was not yet the vogue.

One thing Knight did do was singlehandedly defy the custom then (and largely still in Miss) of procreating and marrying outside his race.

I will tell you this, my kinfolks from that area had no good to say of his war exploits as they had been told and quite a few of them had little or no slaves and were piney woods subsistence farmers of light means. They viewed him as ruffian of the lowest class. Course history changes doesn't it? Now 60s radicals and their kids are running our nation so who knows? I'm ambivalent....barely. I think we could find better historical figures than Newt Knight to lionize. Lots of unamed everyday decent Christian and some Jewish folks who took great risk in the Jimmy Crow era and never asked for or got any attention, never murdered folks and because they were imperfect and probably eschewed interracial marriage they would be hounded as racist today even though they took a stand for Negro rights back when there was risk to that. Instead of being acknowledged for taking that risk they would be vilified now by folks who never took such risks.

Usurpers...sorry for the rant btw

13 posted on 07/14/2009 8:35:16 AM PDT by wardaddy (Proudly Anti-Abortion, not and will never be Pro-Life...........Sarah Palin, there is no substitute)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I went and looked up some data in one of my Newt books and did not realize he was actually from Jasper county, not Jones.

he fought three skirmishes in the area with CSA cavalry including Ellisville (an anti-sesch hotbed then and later home to the TB asylum or something like that)

and had some communication with Union forces from Vicksburg.

the vast majority of men fought and died for the South, like my kin

Newt and his tribe were deserters mostly. That may make the heroes to some today. Obviously you know me Ck so I don’t have to spell it out for ya.

It is a good story though.


14 posted on 07/14/2009 8:46:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (Proudly Anti-Abortion, not and will never be Pro-Life...........Sarah Palin, there is no substitute)
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