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To: Swordmaker
To be honest I could care less, I am wondering why you had a problem with Sudetenland's link to zdnets article which clearly stated the case that Apple was promoting this $29 upgrade and then when you read the fine print you find out Tiger to Snow Leopard is $169. Don't you find this kind of the way a used car salesman tries to scam customers with a low introductory price and then adds all these bogus charges? You certaily won't see an article proudly procaiming:

Apple to release update from Tiger to Snow Leopard for the incredibly cheap price of $169

We both know WHY they won't do that as it doesn't sound like an attractive price to draw in customers. Announcing $29 does wonders to make people THINK they are getting a deal. You don't think Apple's marketing department are using psychology to get new customers by using shady tactics like this?

446 posted on 07/05/2009 6:08:29 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

I’m confused, am I getting a deal since I, along with the vast majority of Mac owners, already have Leopard?

Care to take a guess on the percentage of people still running XP compared to still running Tiger on their Intel Macs?

Does $169 really not seem like a decent price for what you get? iLife and iWork are both $79 dollars sets if you buy them separately.


448 posted on 07/05/2009 7:02:22 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Blue Highway
To be honest I could care less...

You aren't being honest. Every time and everything you post on here shows that you have an agenda. That is caring, in some twisted, ADS way.

ZDNets article which clearly stated the case that Apple was promoting this $29 upgrade . . . Don't you find this kind of the way a used car salesman tries to scam customers with a low introductory price and then adds all these bogus charges?

And it IS a $29 upgrade to anyone who owns a computer with Leopard factory installed or who has already purchased Leopard as an upgrade. IT IS AN UPGRADE TO OSX.5 LEOPARD. It is NOT an upgrade to OSX.4 Tiger. There is no scam. You keep wanting to ascribe evil motives to business decisions. YOU are the one who thinks and posts like a DUer. Wow! Businesses are "evil." Businesses are trying to steal from the customers because they are "greedy." The scam only exists in your and Bott's minds.

As to trumpeting the upgrade from Tiger to Snow Leopard... why would they expend any advertising money at all? These people have had 20 months to upgrade to Leopard and haven't. They are fewer than 12% of the early adopters and seem to be quite happy with Tiger. The option to upgrade is there, if they want it.

If they don't, they won't... and they won't be offended at the cost if they don't. If they do, they get iLife'09 ($79), iWork'09 ($79), a Leopard license ($129) and the Snow Leopard upgrade ($29), a package worth $369, if bought separately, for only $169 ($200 off the separate retail prices if the package components were bought individually). They have not hidden anything. There is nothing sneaky, as you claim. There is no fine print. There is no bait and switch scam as you and Bott are implying.

Incidentally, Apple announced upgrade policies at the WWDC (June 8, 2009) Keynote before Microsoft's announced Windows 7 pricing on June 25th. The pricing of Windows, whether it's free or discounted for a short period, is irrelevant. Apple is not competing against Microsoft for Operating System sales. Only you guys seem to think they are.

You don't think Apple's marketing department are using psychology to get new customers by using shady tactics like this?

No, Blue, I don't think Apple is trying to get "new" customers by using shady tactics. This is an UPGRADE, it is meant for already existing customers who have purchased that which is being upgraded. They are certainly NOT "new customers."

454 posted on 07/05/2009 8:02:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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