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To: wagglebee; Marysecretary; Petronski

***The baptism for sin takes place AFTER the person has declared Christ as his or her saviour. You are saved and then baptized. The act of baptism itself doesn’t save.

At the time the Nicene Creed was adopted infant baptism had been the norm for centuries. It is still the norm for Catholics, Orthodox and nearly ALL other Christians.***

When you are your own Pope, nothing else matters. The only thing driving one’s beliefs are the contents of one’s stomach, the softness of one’s bed, the condition of the weather, the emotions of one’s spouse, or the outcome of the horse race at the track.


633 posted on 05/27/2009 5:38:54 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Petronski

I always find it ironic when anti-Catholics say things like, “only Catholics believe [fill in the blank],” and then have absolutely no explanation when they are told that not only did the Reformers retain these beliefs, but so do most present-day Protestants. It’s also quite amusing to hear them explain how the Bible is the literal Word of God, BUT there are portions that they reject because our Lord was only speaking “figuratively”. And my favorite is the absurd theory that Jesus Christ would occasionally switch between Greek and Aramaic for the sole purpose of ridiculing and confusing His Apostles.


635 posted on 05/27/2009 6:02:50 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: MarkBsnr

Yah, yah, yah. Same old same old, Mark.


641 posted on 05/27/2009 6:29:15 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: MarkBsnr
When you are your own Pope, nothing else matters. The only thing driving one’s beliefs are the contents of one’s stomach, the softness of one’s bed, the condition of the weather, the emotions of one’s spouse, or the outcome of the horse race at the track.

Some of the most orthodox of Lutherans will admit that the absurd extreme of sola scriptura that you have articulated very well is indeed the Achilles' heel of Lutheranism.

647 posted on 05/27/2009 7:20:43 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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