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To: americanophile; SunkenCiv
I used to think that 0bama would cause the death of America. however, I am beginning to believe that he's just a symptom of the problem. America's days could be over.

Let's take the Roman empire for example. Augustus the first emperor in about, let's use this as datum, in 1 A.D. Look at the Roman emperors from 200 - 220 A.D.

Pertinax (murdered), Didius Julianus who won his job in auction (executed), Septimius Severus (natural Causes), Caracalla (murdered by the army), Geta (murdered), Macrinus (murdered), Diadumenian (murdered) and our buddy Elegabalus (decapitated and thrown in the sewer). Empires run the courses.

I think we are heading to some sort realignment in the next 20 to 50 years.

90 posted on 05/07/2009 8:01:04 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama - America's Elegabalus and Commodus combined)
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To: Perdogg
I would tend to agree with you to a point. While I agree that Obama is a symptom of our decaying Republic, he is also the tool that will be used by God to put the final nail in our coffin. I read an interesting statistic that I am going to use in an article I am writing. The statistic goes to the heart of the problem we as a former Christian country face.

I say former because we have not shown the fruits of a Christian society for quite some time. The difference in the way the Christian clergy of America looks at important societal values now compared to the way they looked at them in 1998 is astonishing. Then, if you look at the percent of protestant Christian's who actually voted for the Socialist agenda and Obama in the last election add to the picture.

Now take what I just told you and add to the mix the misinformation the left has been feeding America for the last 4 to 8 years. The misinformation they have been pressing on America is that Jesus was a Socialist. They have been telling people that because Jesus was a Socialist, He would support the Socialist agenda of the left.

It may seem like just another attack upon Christianity, but it is worse then most people realize. By convincing the politically uneducated Christians that Jesus Christs would have a fondness for and and support the Social programs, they have made it more palatable to vote for a Democrat who only cares for the downtrodden and under privileged American.

The result was the highest percent of Christian vote the Democrats have received in years. Without a solid hold upon the Christian vote, the Republicans are looking at a long road back, if in fact they ever do make it back.

Now this is written off the top of my head, and I may not be as clear as I wish, but I hope you get my drift. Christians need to be reached with the truth, but most pastors are afraid of teaching the truth that might be a bit political. Also, many pastors would actually argue that Jesus was a Socialist, that is because they do not understand the actual concept of political Socialism. That and the Church has relinquished their responsibility to the state years ago.

So you can see why I agree you. Obama is a symptom of our decay, but with a full court press on to destroy the voices of truth, we will be hard pressed ourselves to re-educate the confused and indoctrinated masses. Obama will be the tool used to keep us from reclaiming our position as a dominant country in the world. So we will hear more and more talk of secession as time goes forward from now.

Keep an eye out for my article and you will see the numbers I am talking about. They truly will astound you.
92 posted on 05/07/2009 8:48:32 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Perdogg; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

It seems to me that the most likely reason for a breakup would have to do with massive immigration from south of the border; Florida, Texas, and California — which are also three of the four largest states — have considerable Hispanic (even non-English-speaking) populations. Those three states also have water shortages, and California (at least) has uncontrolled growth, to the tune approximately of 1200 housing units a week just a few years ago.

Thanks Perdogg.


121 posted on 05/08/2009 8:14:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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