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Posted on 04/17/2009 5:53:19 PM PDT by kanawa
As y'all know there is a Freepathon going on
and I thought it might be a fun idea to raise some contributions in Chet's name.
Kinda like making lemonade out of lemons.
As you might be aware, our buddy Chet like to post pitbull stories.
I'm suggesting to those who want to join in
that over the next week we set aside a certain amount of money each day to be donated to FR.
There can be 2 donation levels, one of $5/day and one of $10/day.
From those base levels we will subtract $1/day for each pitbull article that Chet post.
The folks at the $5/day level, if Chet remains consistent are likely to pay nothing.
For example Chet has posted SIX pitbull articles today,
Folks at the $5/day pledge level would donate nothing for today.
Folks at the $10/day pledge level would be on the hook today for $4
(course the day isn't over yet and Chet might post 4 more articles before midnight)
We'll start tomorrow and tally up the totals next Saturday,
post our results on the Freepathon thread and make our Chet Challenge donations.
It could also be the time when we make any additional donations in the name of all us dog lovers here on FR
No one is forcing anyone to read any of Chet’s threads. If someone doesn’t like the topic, they don’t have to read them.
Last I heard, it’s a free country and as long as he’s not posting anything that’s violating the posting guidelines, I don’t see what the issue is over the topics he posts.
Anyone who is so put out by his threads needs to get over it and get a life. Posting a vanity like this is no way for adults to act.
Probably, but he'd have to admit he had a problem
and was powerless over it as a first step.
Unfortunately, that is something he has to come to on his own,
no one can cajole or argue him into accepting the fact.
Posting an article within an existing thread is still posting an article
Yeah , gonna have to count that one.
Otherwise we'd just be enabling him, gotta have tough love.
I posted this on another thread,,, :
“Me-n-Harley made it 2 FEET out the back door when one
of the pits climbed the fence,,,got off the chain,,,
I only had time to yank him back in the house and slam the door,,,
911 called and cops saw it in my yard,,,
Two came and got out with guns drawn,,,
One cop went over and read thug-woman the riot act,,,
I read ALL of them the riot act,,,
Cops were very nice this time because they SAW it in my yard,,,
Same Shiite Diferent Day...”
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This was last night,,,
My Bad,,,Didn’t have my spotlight,,,
This is why some of us HATE!!!
No one is forcing him to stop posting them either.
If someone doesn’t like the topic, they don’t have to read them.
Some of us actually don't mind the topic, are intimately affected by it
and feel it is important to investigate and analyze the reports.
Unfortunately when the reports are spammed in a deluge on to FR
who the hell has time to properly respond to them all
Mission accomplished as far the poster is concerned.
For him its not about rational discourse and honest investigation,
rather it's about ginning up fear, hatred and hysteria.
Plus there is the little problem of when going to the threads,
folks not agreeing with Chet and his posse
have to put up personal attacks like these....
...oughtta legalize hunting seasons for zombies' dogs--even for urban areas. I would put up a little share of a bounty.For an example of how a gentlemen of Chet's posse treats a ladylittle people, who’ve been mesmerized and thrilled by the “power” of pit-bull-like dogs to murder children and old folks.
Owners of the monsters are criminals
Let’s rid the face of the earth of those dogs and their variations, before they get rid of our loved ones.
pit bull owners who are left-leaning undesirables and inbreeds
And those are cowardly words from behind a keyboard
It's only a matter of more attacks and time before we're rid of the favorite tool of cowardly troublemakers.
popular choice of criminals and kooks.
dogs should have been killed on first sight, before they even threatened anyone
owners of pit-bull-like dogs devised their own reputation for being trashy or incompetent. They should be blacklisted.
Pit bull worshipers state in the usual slippery language that the father of the child forced the dog to attack.
Maybe a can of gasoline and a fireplace lighter will work.
Only trashy people would have a problem with it.
pit bull fans tend to use arguments very similar to those used by PETA members.
Pit bull zombies
killing pit bulls is cheap and therapeutic....Our Nation's founding fathers hung sodomites.
It's my party, and I'll kill pit bulls, if I want to.
We're conservatives--not pimps, pushers or calculating breeders of monsters.
pit bull owners typically get their beasts for the purpose of making their neighbors fear for their families' lives.
Zombies would rather take their chances on imprisonment than give up their meth lab security.
pit bull owners have been obvious in their intent to disarm anyone who would defend themselves or others against the dogs.
I reiterate their desire to scare others and cowardice against trying to do it themselves.
We need a legal, year-round hunting season for pit bulls and meth zombies, IMO, with no fee and no bag limit.
all pit bulls should be exterminated
Criminal-minded people have pit bulls for scaring their neighbors and scoff at probable consequences.
Pit bulls were bred specifically to "snap and attack."
That's what owning a pit bull is all about: the owners' personalities and desire for fear in others
IMO, they're alright as targets.
continue to make your own choices on feeding defenseless people to dogs
"I Couldn't Give A Rat’S Ass About Your Fake “concerns”..."
I don’t see what the issue is over the topics he posts.
No, of course you don't.
Posting a vanity like this is no way for adults to act.
I always look to your valued opinion on what constitutes adult behavior.
To paraphrase someone wiser than me,
"If you don’t like the thread, you don’t have to read it."
Have a nice Sunday, metmom
Who are YOU to decide what is appropriate or not on a board where you are not an owner nor a moderator?
This is BS because you and who ever else feel it necessary to single him out because you don’t agree with his opinion.
Is there a 12 step program to prevent the impulsively offended from clicking on his threads?
Did you go after Ron Paul supporters with the same vigor?
This is childish and I’m not letting it go.
I ask again if singling out a poster because he posts credible articles regarding pit bulls allowed by the mods, owners and forum rules?
>You are correct, she is a American Staffordshire Terrier not a Staffordshire Bull Terrier. You know your dogs.<
You are correct. I know that not only do laws banning “pit bulls” step on responsible people’s rights, they target breeds of dog which are too small to do all the damage of which they are accused.
Nine times out of 10, the dogs involved in serious bite cases are not spayed or neutered, much less pedigreed, registered dogs. As I’ve stated repeatedly on this forum, I have no patience with those individuals who actively seek to own a dog they can make dangerous to people or other animals, regardless of breed or lack thereof.
And, if “pit bulls” are banned, heaven help us if the thugs turn to a larger, more rare breed like the Cane Corso or the Fila Brasiliero.
Note a description of the Fila. Pay particular attention to the last section. Imagine this breed, being produced in large numbers, spread all through urban areas of the country:
(1) - What are they used for?
In days of old, the Fila had many jobs assigned to it. Its roles included service as an estate guardian, a cattle drover and a jaguar hunter. It has been used as an army dog and it was even used by Brazilian slave owners to capture run-away slaves. In this day and age, the Fila is primarily kept as a guardian and companion. (2) - Are they easy to train?
Usually, yes. There is the occasional stubborn Fila, or the super-intelligent one that is always testing you. For the most part the Fila wants to please its owner, and because of this, they try really hard to learn what is being taught to them. Nothing is quite as happy as a Fila who has the praise of its owner. It is important to remember when training a Fila pup, that this dog will likely
weigh over 100 pounds as an adult. Something that isn’t cute at that size should not be tolerated when the dog is young. In general, females have a longer attention span as puppies. Potty training comes easily for the vigilant, persistent owner. Like any dog, clarity, consistency, praise, and well-timed discipline are most important. In turn you will have love, respect, and a well-behaved companion who will give its life to protect you if the need presents itself.
(3) - Where and with whom is the Fila registered?
The Fila is NOT an AKC breed, nor is it able to be registered with the UKC. It is registered with the FCI, and its papers are issued through one of two clubs, either the CBKC in Brazil (the country of the breed’s origin), or with the FCPR in Puerto Rico.
(4) - How will my Fila react to other members of the family?
If a family member has not been introduced to the dog, nor regularly interacted with your Fila during puppyhood, the chances are that your Fila will regard this person as a stranger no matter how much YOU love them; you will not be able to trust your dog alone with this family member. At the very least you will have to keep your Fila on a leash in their presence, some may even have to be crated or put in a separate room or yard. The Fila Brasileiro does not like or trust strangers. Period.
Certain dogs are good at certain things. We know what bloodhounds and sheepdogs are good at, and it's obvious what pit bulls are good at and they don't belong in areas of higher population density where they prefer to attack the ones at their eye-level...toddlers and kids.
“I only get p.o. when none of owners admit to the possibility of the breed being dangerous.”
Yes. Don’t think you’ll find many of those types around here.
I try to educate that all dogs are potentially dangerous.
As a rule the larger the dog is,
and this includes ‘pitbulls’,
the greater is the potential danger.
Although at the extreme ends of victims,
the very young and the very old,
even small dogs can cause terrible damage.
I don’t subscribe to the idea that “my dog would never do that”.
Even a ‘good’ dog can get into trouble
if the owner slips up on his/her responsibility.
Bless you for taking in the rescue
and giving the old girl care and a good home
during the time she has left.
Show us where he devoted a thread to attacking you. He posts news articles. Your tactics are like the liberal's tactics against conservatives, for instance the attacks against Sarah, as another poster said earlier.
Wow! I just want you to know I didn’t request your post be pulled.
I’m gobsmacked that it was, guess we got an answer of sorts from the modanyway...I was working on a response when it happened.
I don’t want to add fuel to the fire on the thread
by posting it there but I would like to share the reply with you.Here it is minus some of the formatting...
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“Who the hell are YOU to make those decisions of what is appropriate on a board that you neither own or trusted to moderate?”
I have opinions,
I have no power of deciding what is appropriate or not,
nor do I wish to have that power.
It is my opinion that...Spamming the forum with a deluge of articles of attacks is propaganda and fear mongering.
...and I’m bloodly well entitled to the opinion.
I’ve stated my reasoning a number of times.
You are entitled to whatever mixed up idea you have about what is happening.I AM NOT calling for Chet to stop posting, that is not up to me.
In fact, the only calls I see for censorship
are coming from you and a couple of others
and are directed towards me.Chet’s a big boy and I’m sure he can handle the criticism like a man.
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I do regret that you are upset about the manner of my response.
Hopefully we will meet again someday on the same side of an issueAll the best,
k
Guns, just like dogs, kill people, and I'd say guns kill a lot more people each year.
8 articles a day on evil guns would be 8 true articles a day, just the same as the pit bull stories are true.
But such an agenda would be likely be pulled once too many get posted.
Dude! What crevice did you pull that out of?
I've explained my reasoning a number of times.
If you care to look you'll find it.
If you don't get it, any additional atttempts
of explanation on my part are a waste of time.
Calling me a liberal! What a joke ;~D
I'm not the one calling for draconian infringements
on the property rights of responsible law-abiding citizens.
Cheers
What's that got to do with Chet's threads? He's posting articles about pit bulls without commentary. So what? If they reflect badly on the breed or the breed's owner, that's not his doing.
Guns, just like dogs, kill people, and I'd say guns kill a lot more people each year.
So guns jump fences and shoot someone all on their own. Do they break their leashes and go down the street to do so? Do they run in packs and shoot people as a group? They have to be raised right and well socialized so as not to be a threat? Last I heard, a gun is an inanimate object that has to be directly operated by the owner.
8 articles a day on evil guns would be 8 true articles a day, just the same as the pit bull stories are true.
Who's labeling Chet's pit bull threads as evil? He's just posting them as they appear in whatever publication he finds them in. The pit bull threads are posted without commentary by Chet.
But such an agenda would be likely be pulled once too many get posted.
What agenda? Posting facts is an agenda? He posts a thread. People are free to comment on them. For all the threads I checked that Chet has posted, I don't see any with an agenda to get the dogs banned. I didn't see any that dealt with and pushed proposed legislation to ban them. That would be an agenda. Simply posting true articles about a situation does no an agenda make.
If you have issues with people’s reactions to pit bulls, then go after the irresponsible pet owners who are giving pits a bad name. You’re going after the wrong people by attacking those who are looking at the situation and seeing a bunch of stories like this and coming to the logical conclusion that the dogs are a hazard.
If pit lovers want the reputation of the breed to be redeemed, it’s up to the pit owners to take care of it. Trying to convince non-pit owners that the dogs are harmless isn’t going to change anything because stories like this are still going to be happening, whether people like them or not.
What’s happening to the breed is not a result of the general public’s opinion of them, the general public’s opinion of them is a result of what’s happening to the breed and that’s the owners fault. Go after them instead.
Changing people’s thinking doesn’t change the facts.
So guns jump fences and shoot someone all on their own. Do they break their leashes and go down the street to do so? Do they run in packs and shoot people as a group? They have to be raised right and well socialized so as not to be a threat? Last I heard, a gun is an inanimate object that has to be directly operated by the owner.<
And so the dogs, whose owners always obey the leash laws, socialize their dogs from puppyhood to look upon humans as neither prey nor enemies, actively train their dogs in obedience and keep up that training, and spay, or even more importantly neuter their dogs, are the ones running amok and killing people?
>They have to be raised right and well socialized so as not to be a threat? Last I heard, a gun is an inanimate object that has to be directly operated by the owner.<
Guns kill people because of the owners’ behavior. Dogs kill people because of the owners’ behavior.
Pulling the trigger is a behavior. Not keeping a dog under control is a behavior. There are few truly feral dogs who are responsible for human deaths in this country. Even “stray” dogs have owners. The owners are either letting their dogs run loose or failing to keep them in escape-proof ways. They may have dumped the dogs, but it is the owners’ behavior that have put those dogs out on the street.
Then we have those owners who want their dog to attack other animals or other people. They select and train the dogs for maximum aggression and the ability to inflict damage. These people are in a class by themselves. It is because of their behavior that their dogs are a danger to society. These people need to be dealt with in no uncertain terms by society.
Just in the first 50 posts there was much hatred spewed toward Chet99 and much delusion about pits...Post #7 made a stupid remark about pits not being human aggressive. When I asked her what species kept being sent to the hospital and morgue because of pits mauling. she had no answer as to what species it was...Post from /slings and arrows made it personal about Chet, inferring a pit bull ran off with his wife...What a bunch of BS you PB owners spew under the guise of humor...
This whole thread has one objective SHUT UP CHET and anyone that agrees with him....Such liberal horse pucky is what the political class is trying to do with conservative talk show hosts...Isolate, attack, ridicule so as to shut up differing opinions. I see many multiple posts from the same source, posted by different people, big deal. Chet does not post the same article over and over...Sad to say each one is a different attach...Don't like his posts, don't click and then complain and make fun of him. Grow up and don't click on his posts...I personally like them and it does keep people informed. Please spare me anymore sanctimonious lectures. Saul Alinskys rules for radicals. Isolate, ridicule to shut them up and then destroy them...Real commie piece of work to use those rules against a fellow freeper....
Guns are inanimate objects that have to be operated to pose a hazard. Dogs can act on their own. They are not the same, no matter how much anyone wants to excuse the the dog.
You go girl.
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