Posted on 04/07/2009 4:47:57 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
Why is it that the forces of evil are well funded, well organized and determined to get what they want. While the believers in God are letting the enemies of God decide the future of our country?
It seems that too many people are living in the future, waiting for the Rapture. We have to look to the future but live in the present. I think too many Christians are too apathetic while the other side is energied.
Remember we have to hold down the fort until the calvary arrives. We can't just keep looking to the horizon while the fort is being surrounded and burned to the ground. What did Jesus say: "Occupy until I come." This doesn't mean living in the future. It means dealing with life as we find it day by day. It is fine to study the prophecies but we cannot use this as a form of escapism which I fear that many people do.
The churches have a great network for organization. What if someone printed up a Christian monthly newsletter to be distributed at Church? We cannot take for granted that people fully understand what is going on. I think human beings naturally are more interested in their immediate welfare rather than the big issues. They tend not to know what is going on until it is too late.
Have you ever heard of Tim Gill? He is a Colorado gay millionaire who has been single-mindedly defeating pro-family candidates in a number of states. Gill uses a very stealthy and deceptive method. He gives money to opponents of pro-family candidates. The voters are inundated with repeated mailings critical of the pro-family candidate. The mailings never mention anything about gay issues. Instead they just make general criticism of the pro-family candidate. Another thing that the voters do not know is that the opposition candidate has made an agreement with Gill to support gay causes in exchange for campaign money. How evil is that!
Meanwhile, many of the churches throughout our country fail to see how they can put their churches to work to counter this threat. Churches have natural social networks, a strong belief system and a method of collecting money for our causes. Instead it is the anti-God left that has all the organization and uses it to the ultimate degree. Wake up! What kind of country will our children inherit!
Indeed. Next up, The War of Magog, which we're fixin' to see.
“And if you or anyone really believed there is a god or God, you wouldn’t be wasting time on your job or family; you’d be treading the planet, helping your god’s “children”, and teaching everyone about this god of yours. Because nothing can be more important, than knowing with certainty that your work is truly for your god. Anything less, is hypocrisy. “
My pastor had a sermon on this and he agrees with you. My son’s private Chritian school had a spiritual emphasis week last week, and it was basically the same theme.
From my own personal experience, people are much more open to listening about God/Jesus if they know that you are a decent person. I try not to shove my faith in people’s faces, but I’m not shy about saying what I believe.
There is no rapture.
What was that line about judging others? LOL!
Forced faith, is worth nothing.
Then that means all those God-given rights of yours aren't really God-given at all...
The principle of reciprocity gave those rights. Blood had to be shed for those rights. It certainly didn't fall from the sky, off the hands of an imaginary being.
AMEN sister!!
Not me. Tried it again and again, over and over, far more than most people who claim to have deep faith, would have. Nothing happened. Would I be so forceful of my position, otherwise?
Thats the problem with the bulk of the modern American Christian church..They keep pushing an un-Biblical, easy-way-out doctrine (the rapture...”oh you dont have to worry, we’re all gonna be gone when the tribulation comes!!”)... thank all those Left-behind movies for that...LaHaye and his buddies made a good chunk of change from em.
Mar 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
What is so hard for Christians to understand about these end times?!?! Jesus tells us clearly that we will have to be ready for the tribulation, and have our Spiritual armor on! God doesnt want a bunch of wimps who are looking to fly away!!!
If Pastors would simply get back to teaching the Bible rather than worrying about feel-good sermons, making fictional movies and preaching fictional doctrines, then the Christian population would have a lot more backbone and we’d start putting the secularists back in their place.
It is certainly the most often used and misused "line" in the entire Book. It also teaches us, BTW, to warn our brothers of their shortcomings, lest their shortcomings be added onto us. If they fail to heed the warning, their shortcomings are their own.
And "having egg on one's face" can hardly be considered a "judgment" anyway.
The principle of reciprocity gave those rights. Blood had to be shed for those rights. It certainly didn't fall from the sky, off the hands of an imaginary being.
That isn't what our founding document declares. Nor does it ask the "principle of reciprocity" to bear witness to it's intentions. Having recognized that those rights are inherently bestowed in all mankind from on high in the DOI, the Constitution then goes on about limiting the amount of those rights being granted to the various governmental bodies.
Blood is not shed for those rights, not according to the documents we stand upon. They are ours as a birthright from God. Blood is shed to keep them.
It is easier to make people value those rights more, if they can be convinced to believe that they have been bestowed by this anthropomorphized supernatural being that the majority had a virtual relationship with, in common, than by the principle of reciprocity which is really the root of it.
A rallying figure, albeit imaginary.
Wow Old Sarge, I was surprised to hear that from you!
Just ask Jesus into your heart and you’ll be amazed how much better you’ll feel.
Read the Bible and you can see how the one world order is being set up. It’s there. God’s time, not ours.
Wow Old Sarge, I was surprised to hear that from you!
Just ask Jesus into your heart and you’ll be amazed how much better you’ll feel.
Read the Bible and you can see how the one world order is being set up. It’s there. God’s time, not ours.
You’ve got freepmail.
Thanks, I’ve read it, and I truly appreciate the root of your intention.
In that brief line, you discount the very foundations of America, and Western Civilization as well... A sad state of belief, to be sure. But it is yours, and you are free to have it... with your God-given freedoms, which men have died to preserve...
True. He did give us Free Will. But like any loving parent, he’ll step in at the last minute to save us from ourselves. :)
No I didn’t.
The Founding Fathers were very clear about it, when they separated the Church(es) from the State.
Besides, I fear you are holding the works of men to the same estimation as that of your god (God).
God didn’t invent ‘Government.’ Man did. No wonder it’s so screwed up!
God gave us some very specific instructions on how we are to lead our lives. We’ve ignored Him time and again in our personal and public lives.
I don’t think God will ultimately abandon us; he saved one special family from The Great Flood to weed out the trash and start us out anew. :)
Maybe 0bama is our flood? Of one thing I’m certain; there WILL be blood in the streets on ‘his watch.’
And I’m just speculating; I don’t pretend for one New York Minute that I know what God has in store for us...other than an awesome Afterlife whether ours comes in a natural-span human lifetime or suddenly due to the idiots in charge in Washington today.
Man, on the other hand, has been pretty predictable since Day One in the Garden.
I think history shows He doesn’t. To Him, empires and nations rise and fall, this is only a blink in eternity. It is what His people choose that determines the course. It is our proving ground, not His.
You asked — Why is it that the forces of evil are well funded, well organized and determined to get what they want. While the believers in God are letting the enemies of God decide the future of our country?
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Ummm..., well, basically it’s because the “godless” are also in Republican Party. In fact, I was reading some comments here, and regarding the Republicans (and/or conservatives, if you will) that some of these people figure that they would win elections better if they jettisoned some of the “Christian baggage”...
Christians are not the majority of the country, the Republicans or the Democrats. It might be nice if they were, but they are not.
Thus, the answer to this problem is to “make more Christians” — and *not* organize better politically.
Besides, the *primary* goal of Christians is to spread the Gospel message — not organize politically. If one wants to do that (i.e., organize politically) as a secondary goal, that’s fine, as long as they don’t lose sight of the *primary goal* of spreading the Gospel message of salvation.
The Gospel message is not a political message. But, having more Christians will affect politics (so make more Christians...).
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One particular example of how the “Christian message” might affect the “politics” of the conservatives, adversely, is that I would *never* (in a million years) vote for a “cult group member” for President. God would *never* have Christians voting to support a *cult group member* under any circumstances. And thus, I would never support the *cult member* — Romney.
BUT, there are “political operatives” who might see voting for Romney as a way to win an election and would castigate some Christians for going against the politics of “conservatism” (aside from the fact that some don’t think he’s conservative... LOL..) — by adhering to a Christian principle of not supporting or being in league with a “cult group member” who denies the Triune Godhead and that Jesus Christ was *always* (from eternity past) part of that same Triune Godhead (something denied by that cult group and thus being *totally against* Christianity).
Being a *serious* Christian may make some Christians vote against some members of their (”supposedly”) own party...
Is *this* (kind of action) the type of “political action” that you’re talking about? (i.e. voting against your own party people?), which causes some people in that same political party to figure it’s time to “dump Christianity” for the good of the Party??
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