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Urlacher better be nice to him or he might just take his ball and go home.
1 posted on 04/02/2009 2:38:01 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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2 posted on 04/02/2009 2:39:03 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan

Damn. I wanted my Jets to get him.


3 posted on 04/02/2009 2:39:38 PM PDT by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 04/02/2009 2:39:45 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: mainepatsfan

A fool and their draft picks are soon parted.


5 posted on 04/02/2009 2:40:24 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: mainepatsfan

Kyle Orton won all those games for the Bears and this is how they do him? I hope the Bears enjoy their 5-11 season for the next several years!


6 posted on 04/02/2009 2:41:21 PM PDT by Professor_Leonide (I said to the young man who showed me a photo, "Who can ever be sure what is behind a mask?")
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10 posted on 04/02/2009 2:45:29 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: mainepatsfan

At the going price of 2 1st-round picks, I’m glad the Bears paid up and not my Vikes.


11 posted on 04/02/2009 2:46:10 PM PDT by Gil4
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To: mainepatsfan

So Cutler got his feewings hurt when he found out the Broncos were trying to acquire another QB and then he refused to play for Denver. So what about these other teams that were trying to get trade their QBs for Cutler? Will the Redskins, Buccaneers, Lions, and Titans QBs now be hurt and demand to be traded?


16 posted on 04/02/2009 2:56:26 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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I’m so tired of analysts stressing Cutler is a ‘pro-bowl QB’ when everyone knows the vote was taken before the end of the season and most objective observers would have chosen Pennington or Cassell over cry-baby Cutler.

That being said, I kind of liked Orton for his grit to get wins despite lack of talent, but the Bears did get a somewhat better QB. But for 2 no #1 picks?

How does that put the Patriots trade of Cassell and Vrabel for the 2nd pick in the 2nd round? Did KC steal the Patriots blind?

Personally, I don’t think so, I think Belichik will trade that high 2nd rd pick for a 1st rd pick in 2010 and eventually get his value and the Pats needed the cap space to pay a younger LB w/ better prospects.

In my personal overall analysis, the Bears overpaid to get an ok starting QB while Denver can have Orton hold the fort and pick Sanchez or Freeman in a more economical position later in the 1st rd and get an additional 1st pick in 2010.

Winner, Patriots and Broncos. Bears will have to hope Cutler does not throw away games.


17 posted on 04/02/2009 2:58:00 PM PDT by Gothmog (I fight for Xev)
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I don’t follow other teams closely. Is this good or bad for the Chargers?


19 posted on 04/02/2009 3:04:54 PM PDT by llmc1
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To: mainepatsfan
Makes sense. The Bears had only one more year on Orton's contract and HATE to pay for high first round picks. This way, they can tell the fans that they got their high value QB and saved the first round dough.

Cutler grew up being a Bears fan as a kid and it is sort of dream for him to play there. Bears have a lot of roster holes to fill, but the Central division is weak right now and this might just give them an edge in their own division.

It may not pan out, but all in all, it is a good move for the Bears.

23 posted on 04/02/2009 3:09:43 PM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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25 posted on 04/02/2009 3:14:19 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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Cutler must live a charmed life. I thought he might end up going to the Lions, cause one thing the Lions always have is a lot of high draft picks.

Assuming the Bears didn't mortgage too much of their future for Cutler, they could be in good shape. Personally, I think it's dangerous for a team to get into a bidding war for a player. The price always goes up higher than the player's value.

30 posted on 04/02/2009 4:11:01 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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Interesting move for the Bears (plus they signed Orlando Pace). Cutler is probably an improvement on what they had before.


32 posted on 04/02/2009 4:29:31 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (Sam is one of my top ten all time favorite female names)
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To: mainepatsfan

Very interesting, didn’t take long to make the deal.

Personally I think the Bears gave away too much.

Well written article too BTW.


34 posted on 04/02/2009 6:14:59 PM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: mainepatsfan

Oh Man! These Bears fans are gonna be insufferable - until they start to suck again. Then, as sure as winter will come again, they will turn on their own.


36 posted on 04/02/2009 6:50:43 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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I was hoping the little crybaby would get traded to the lions. Let him play in a town where there are limited fans and no money to build a team around him.

Unfortunately, he was traded to Chicago. I still think he will find the city and weather a downgrade from Denver. I just hope he throws as many interceptions in Chicago as he did here.


50 posted on 04/02/2009 11:00:22 PM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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1) Since when are wins are QB stat? The Broncos had the 2nd-ranked offense by yards last season and didn’t even make the playoffs in a weak division because their defense was horrific.

2) Cassel had Randy Moss. Culpepper looked MVP with Randy Moss and now he barely has a job with the Detroit Lions. Don’t get me wrong - I like Cassel and he’s a smart guy but 11-5 and that weak schedule is why is going rate was low. Plus the Patriots wanted to get rid of him quickly so they could free up cap space for the Free Agency which they did well in picking up Fred Taylor, Joey Galloway, Shawn Springs and Leigh Bodden.

3) I don’t see how anyone can defend Cutler. Cutler himself demanded to be traded when his offensive coordinator was fired. They brought in McDaniels. Unsurprisingly, McDaniels ENTERTAINED a trade to bring in a QB that he had succeeded under him during the past year, knows his system and he had known well for several years. But guess what? McDaniels declined. The fact that McDaniels even dared to entertain the trade got Cutler all in a hissy fit. People say that McDaniels handled the situation afterwards poorly. But what did he do wrong? He just defended himself essentially it was the right thing to do to entertain the trade but that he declined and Jay Cutler was his quarterback. Most other QBs would take a hint and just use this as motivation but get even better and impress his new coach. But not Jay Cutler - he just wants to be a spectacle and a crybaby refusing to return calls to the owner and the coach, giving the Broncos no choice.

4) Cutler is good but overrated. He put up impressive numbers in yards and touchdowns but he also was near the top of the league in interceptions giving him a low-80 passer rating. Cutler had a great coach in Shanahan, one of the best offensive lines in the league, two great wide receivers and a decent third WR, a decent TE and Shanahan’s running system which despite having 5-6 RBs injured last year, still netted one of the best YPC in the league. Now Cutler will have a good RB, a good TE, and mediocre offensive lines and WRs.

5) Broncos got a good deal in the end. They’ve been improving their defense in the FA this season and now they shiny new draft picks for this year and next year to keep improving their talent. QB is now a new question but the offensive system is still generally good and both QBs Orton and Simms are still mid-way through their careers.


57 posted on 04/03/2009 9:35:53 AM PDT by GreatDaggar
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