Posted on 04/01/2009 10:37:42 AM PDT by Chet 99
A SEVEN-month-old boy has been killed by two pit bull dogs at his grandmother's house.
Texan news website Mysanantonio.com reports Izaiah Gregory Cox was attacked when his grandmother left the room to warm milk bottles. She was also attacked and injured by the dogs.
San Antonio Police Chief William McManus said officers had to shoot the dogs so that paramedics could get into the house.
"What can you say about the death of a seven-month-old baby at the hands of pit bulls?" he asked. "It's senseless without words."
(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...
One relative said the dogs bit her 8-year-old niece in the face once, and added she thought the dogs should have been put down thenWe talk often about how important it is for the owner to be responsible
A few years back I had a discussion with a poster
who was outraged at some nearby dog owners
that had inadequate containment for their dogs.
She said it was up to me and people like me to do something about it
because the problem causers would listen to us.
Well after I finished chuckling at the vision of myself
lying in a pool of blood after telling some 'brothers'
that they better clean up their act,
I asked her what she had done about it,
who she had called to report the problem.
It turned out she had reported it to no one.
Another layer of responsiblity is Animal Control.
While the majority do a superb job, many times in the face of inadequate resources,
there have been too many times when tragedy has followed
on the heels of numerous reports of problem behavior.
Either Animal Control is not being diligent,
or is not being given adequate resources
or is hamstrung by inadequate or ineffectual laws.
I'd suggest that anyone with a cellphone keep the number of the local Animal Control in its memory.
If you see a problem, call and report it.
If it involves stray dogs and you don't have other pressing business
keep them in sight until Animal Control arrives.
You can thereby help guide them to the dogs.
It's remarkable how much distance a dog or dogs can cover
between your initial call and the time AC arrives.
Keep an extra leash in your vehicle
and if you judge it safe to do leash the stray until AC arrives.
Recently, I saw fire trucks and an ambulance pull up to house.
I also saw at the window of the residence what appeared to be a large Lab
bouncing up and down and barking at all these strangers entering his yard.
Thinking perhaps the owner was incapacited and that the fire/ambulance guys
might appreciate having someone to control the dog while the did their job
I grabbed my extra leash and went to offer my assistance.
Turned out the elderly lady of the house while in distress
was still able to get the dog behind a closed door
so my help was not needed but the guys appreciated my offer.
I would suppose it is because responsibility is a human condition,
not one that we ascribe to or demand of a dumb animal...
“A duty, obligation or liability for which someone is responsible or accountable.”
In the face of a dog that has demonstrated unprovoked human aggression
we have a responsibility to put down the dog.
The dogs in this case were summarily shot.
I’ve heard no report of tears being shed.
Yes, you’re right, I should have inserted that word. :)
Actually, dog aggression is not terribly uncommon among golden retrievers. And while they are not likely to intentionally bite a person, a child who gets in between them is quite likely to get bitten.
And, of course, you clearly know zip about pit bulls. In my years teaching group dog obedience classes we had a number come thru classes. I never met a single one who showed any aggression in class.
That is not to say that they never can be aggressive, obviously they can. But, your comment is completely unfounded. And that of course is the problem with these entire discussions. The majority of people posting have either had a bad experience themselves or they have had NO experience with the breed and believe whatever they read int he news media. This is surprising for a group who regularly talks about media bias.
They were (initially) not bred to fight PEOPLE. They were neither guard nor attack dogs. They were bred to bull bait (hence the name) and then later were bred to fight other dogs. Of course there are folks out there who breed them to be aggressive toward humans, but that is not to say the entire breed has that background.
And I think you’re fooling yourself if you think that level of distinction as to the enemies they are bred for is significant.
Oh, I know all about pit bulls, I know all about them. And yes, some Goldens can be leash aggressive toward other dogs... WHICH IS WHY YOU KEEP THEM ON A LEASH! A leash? That means you don’t let them run wild, or walk without a leash because “don’t worry, he’s friendly!” Got it?
Howzat?
You’re a funny guy, too bad it’s spoiled by the underlying anger.
Why sir, are you constantly getting agitated over other peoples opinions, when you constantly post articles and comment on Pit Bulls and their owners? This article was proved to be false by a follow-up call, and yet you still refuse to acknowledge that you believe and eat up all that the liberal media spoon fed you when it said 2 pit bulls. Fact is, it is now known that only 1 (if that or just “looks like”) and the other was a retriever. Try humbling yourself and admit you jumped on the “Pit Bull hating” band wagon when you are now proved to be wrong.
At 120 + pounds each, these are most assuredly NOT pitbulls. A BIG pit is 75 lbs tops.
But the urinalist who penned this screed is far to busy to do basic research. Besides, how else could he whip up the current breed hysteria?
Needless to say, it is difficult to be accurate and the media is, point blank, composed of lazy, irresponsible juveniles.
Especially the field-bred types. They are higher-strung, more prey-driven, and blindingly fast. And if you wound up between two of them who were going at it, you would probably get bitten.
And some Labs will also "guard" their house or their car. Friend of mine has a Lab who will offer to bite you if you put a hand on his truck.
Mine won't bite a human (one will lick you to death, the other will just sit on your feet and lean on you), but they will sound like a gross of Rottweilers if you come on my porch. And neither of them will back down an inch from another dog.
I did read a book on Andersonville many moons ago
but don’t recall anything specific about the dogs being used.
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a glance at google shows there is some info out there.
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=andersonville+prison+dogs&btnG=Search&meta
Interesting, definitely will check out
Chet99, have you ever posted as Chester A Arthur who was banned from here earlier? Just curious... you have a remarkably similar modus operandi.
The distinction between dog aggression and people aggression is most important, but so is the distinction between dog aggression and specific prey drive.
Retrievers are VERY aggressive with birds, that's what they're bred for. If you saw my little 43-pound Chocolate Lab confront a live mallard hen, with all her hackles up and every tooth in her head showing, you would think she was a stone cold killer. (Not all Labs will do that, by the way - some will retreat at the first peck in the face. She just closes her eyes and bores in.)
But she is very gentle with my cats and just a melting schmooze with humans.
LOL
Someone on that thread asking Chester...
“Ambrose, is that you?”
I forgot to point this out, but HB 1982, a very intrusive dog control bill, was in the house this past week and the papers here were really ramping up their anti-pit bull coverage.
Now that it’s been killed, I guess we can all go back to normal.
...nightmare
This thread started by the banned Chester A Arthur seems to indicate that tethered dogs are more likely to bite. What gives?
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