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To: BronzePencil

Many a soldier in trying to flush out the enemy would simulate that sound, easy pickin’s!

The M1 Garand is a man rifle, the 30-06 is a cartridge that shows little mercy, it makes big holes from a long way away.

Wars were still teaching soldiers the emphasis of fire control, none of the spray and pray techniques that actually worked in jungles such as Vietnam. The M1 was well suited for its time.

Ironically the more sought after rifle nowadays is the modernized M-14 platform which could be called the son of the Garand, it uses a shorter .308 cartridge with near identical capabilities.


7 posted on 03/24/2009 7:28:43 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Eye of Unk

I think the SEALS use the updated M-14 plus other units are using it for longer ranges plus suppression. So you got the long range plus extra ammo.

Suppoedly, during Nam, the MVA and VC avoided the Aussie troops (yes Aussies had troops in Nam) becuase they carried FAL FN’s with 20 rounds of .308. A bigger rifle to hump in the jungle but more firepower than the M-16 and probably better relibility.

McNamara should burn in hell.


23 posted on 03/24/2009 7:49:30 AM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Eye of Unk

Actually, soldiers brought into the European theater had to be retrained for the range-standard practice of “fire control”. They weren’t putting lead down range and supporting maneuver. They had to be trained to let loose with supporting and suppressing fire, which is the opposite of their basic training.

You don’t take buildings, let alone cities, but waiting for the perfect opportunity to print a 2” group at 200 yards.

You create a base of fire with significant volume, which enables the maneuver element to advance upon the objective.

This practice has been proven, far above purely aimed fire, to get the job done.


36 posted on 03/24/2009 8:40:28 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Eye of Unk
Ironically the more sought after rifle nowadays is the modernized M-14 platform which could be called the son of the Garand, it uses a shorter .308 cartridge with near identical capabilities.

The M-14 is a fine weapon and is the "son of the Garand," However for prone shooting the magazine on the bottom makes it less user friendly than the inblock clip of the Garand.

Note: In WWII a US infantry man shooting the Garand could lay down twice the rounds a Brit could with his 303 Enfield or the Germans with their Mauser. Both of which are bolt actions.

PS
If you go to Springfield, Mass and visit the Springfield Armory museum you can see the prototypes and the first production one off the line and the subsequent rifles number 1 million 2 million 3 million etc.

John C Garand, Moses Browning, and Stoner were all geniuses in the design of rifles and machine guns. Kalashnikov also but his AK was a modification of a German Design but do not sell him short. He improved it vastly and made it into a potent weapon.

44 posted on 03/24/2009 9:22:20 AM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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