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Clever as a Fox (genetic consequences of domesticating animals -- we're doing it to ourselves)
Geoff Milburn ^ | 3/20/09 | Geoff Milburn

Posted on 03/23/2009 1:53:09 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: Pearls Before Swine

Okay, but what about all the yuppies who “don’t want to have kids” because “it’s too much work”? I’m fairly certain if you look at more conservative areas of the country (down to the county level), you’ll see higher birthrates on average than more liberal parts.


21 posted on 03/23/2009 3:14:17 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: autumnraine
Undomesticated Fox


22 posted on 03/23/2009 3:20:47 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: thefrankbaum
Okay, but what about all the yuppies who “don’t want to have kids” because “it’s too much work”?

Well, you have to add 'em up. I think the welfare Moms are more than making up for the yuppies who keep their families small. After all, the tax statistics say that the percentage of people who pay net positive taxes is steadily shrinking. And that is one of the big dangers to the Republic foreseen by Madison and Jefferson.

23 posted on 03/23/2009 3:22:38 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I have to run out right now, but I'm fairly certain the birth rate statistics disagree with the idea that welfare moms make up for the yuppies. If you'd like, when I get back, I'll do some digging.

Regarding the latter, those tax statistics relate more to changes in the tax code (deductions, etc.) than birthrates, IIRC.

24 posted on 03/23/2009 3:28:58 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: LibWhacker
How many generations does it take to make an un-aggressive human the natural way? These fox were selected and bred for certain traits and showed fast results compared to the speed of natural selection in a human population. Perhaps it is a subconscious byproduct of the invention of nuclear weapons.

Remember the only way to win is not to play.


25 posted on 03/23/2009 4:43:42 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: LibWhacker; SunkenCiv
Libs are gradually taming us, sissifying us. Soon there will be no one left capable of defending the country.

I don't think I should be included in this "us" part. I would tell you why, but then I'd have to...

Just kidding. But only about the "I'd have to" thing.

26 posted on 03/23/2009 7:13:16 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: JoeProBono

Someone needs to put that thing out of its misery.


27 posted on 03/23/2009 7:57:02 PM PDT by Peanut Gallery (The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government.)
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To: allmendream
I like the “and if you are a cat owner, at this point you would count the experiment as a success”.

The cat could very well be man's best friend, but would never stoop to admitting it.

28 posted on 03/23/2009 9:04:08 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly

The Egyptians worshiped the cat as a god.

Maybe the felines have been domesticating us to serve them for millennia.


29 posted on 03/23/2009 10:33:22 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: JoeProBono

Why does somebody always have to post that picture of Helen Thomas?


30 posted on 03/24/2009 12:19:21 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obama's next program: Kopechne Care)
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To: Jeff Chandler

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31 posted on 03/24/2009 12:29:29 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Drammach
Maybe the felines have been domesticating us to serve them for millennia.

I don't know about millenia, but I have to consider some of their possible impact on current human breeding. A man or woman who is a servant or worshiper of a cat would be forced to reject any partner outright if they didn't do the same.

32 posted on 03/24/2009 5:28:39 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: LibWhacker

This is true.

The pathological hoplophobia the libs are trying to make a part of our culture is an example. It isn’t the weapon itself so much they disapprove of, but the masculinity it projects.

In their “perfect” world, all men will be in touch with their feminine selves, satisfied with only growing flowers and taking care of their babies instead of hunting for animals, eating meat, and defending their territory.

GREAT article.

But I’m not sure about the loss of melanin theory. There probably were several million Vikings and their victims who would disagree with him there.


33 posted on 03/24/2009 6:32:13 AM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Sawdring

“How many generations does it take to make an un-aggressive human the natural way?”

Scandinavia - 800 A.D. to present.

England - 1960 to present.

Italy - 100 A.D. to 1200 A.D.

America - 1960 to ????????

Islam - STILL GOING STRONG.


34 posted on 03/24/2009 6:40:15 AM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Sawdring

“How many generations does it take to make an un-aggressive human the natural way?”

Scandinavia - 800 A.D. to present.

England - 1960 to present.

Italy - 100 A.D. to 200 A.D. (correction)

America - 1960 to ????????

Islam - STILL GOING STRONG.


35 posted on 03/24/2009 6:40:50 AM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: ZULU
Scandinavia - 800 A.D. to present.

You must remember Gustavus Adolphus, that name would put it from 1721 until now.

36 posted on 03/24/2009 8:10:00 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring

Yeah and Charles XII also - I forgot about him.

I guess the point is that warrior cultures like the Vikings, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, with time get castrated.

Modern day Scandinavians, Italians and Brits are nothing like their ancestors, but people of those groups living here in the U.S. are by no means wussies. WE still have manly men here - despite the liberal attemp to castrate us all.

So it is probably cultural in the case of humans rather than genetic - at least up to now.


37 posted on 03/24/2009 8:18:03 AM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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