Posted on 03/17/2009 7:16:55 AM PDT by N3WBI3
Did you try the builtin drivers? Most distros come with foomatic, which holds drivers for hundreds, if not thousands, of printers.
Oracle is welcome to state that it will only support certain versions. That's a licensing issue and they don't need to be expending support resources to try to figure out why a database keeps crashing on a Gentoo box.
That's a support issue. That doesn't mean they have to try to make it difficult to install on other-than-officially-supported distros.
As I said, since Linux is pretty much Linux, such attempts are dumb, since a knowledgeable sysadmin can MAKE it work with a lot of skull sweat. As a sysadmin, I have better things to do with my time than try to figure out what little idiotic system check I have to defeat to get my test database (about which I have no intention of calling Oracle for support) to install on CentOS.
The production servers, running RedHat, those are fully supported. The test servers are not. That's fine. But having to hold your tongue just right and wait for the right phase of the moon to install an app on what is basically exactly the same OS is just an irritation. It serves no useful purpose except to make the sysadmin's life difficult.
You have hit the nail on the head. A cheap Linux box with a crappy HP laser printer is exactly what my mother in law needs. Then, she can click on anything without worrying about screwing up the computer. One printer cartridge lasts for years.
She surfs the internet and sends email. Linux is excellent for that purpose. She can even use Open Office writer if she ever decides to type something.
The only hard part is finding a dial-up modem that works with Ubuntu.
I think you’re right. Linux has been under 3% market share for years and years, in spite of being free.
I agree with you that lack of drivers is a problem, particularly printer drivers. In fact, the only distro that I have gotten to work at all with any printer is Ubuntu. When Ubuntu does detect and recognize a printer, it is automatically configured — that is easier than Windows. But if Ubuntu does not have a driver, you are SOL.
“And for every FOSS user who thinks people that disagree are idiots I can find at least 10 windows users who think FOSS users are losers living in their mothers basement..”
That’s because...
1) There’s more than 10 times as many Windows than there are “FOSS” users; and
2) The number of “FOSS” users who actually ARE losers living in their mother’s basement is roughly equal to the number of FOSS users who think non-FOSS users are idiots.
Very, very well-said. Like creepy political and religious movements, it’s often difficult to separate the product from the agenda of the product’s cultish devotees. And as such, a normal person’s inclination is to avoid the product altogether, even when the product itself has nothing wrong with it.
Fair Enough.. I get it.. you make money on your efforts. But to call everything Free as communist.. Not sure what you mean.
"Software can add Great Value to a business. Therefore the business decision is to pay a less than Great Price to get an ROI or Open new markets."
Oh come on now.. because you are a developer.. you making the business decision for the owner of the business? Most business owners do pay for packages such as Office. Your worried about a small segment of the world that uses Linux?
"There is just no incentive in our system to produce Free anything. Nothing is free ever."
So.. All the people who work on the Linux distro's for nothing are wasting their time and not making a DIME on their efforts.. you spend a good amount of time on your product and get paid for your efforts.. Sounds like a good deal to me.
Somehow I am lost on your whole premise here.
The author calls them “myths” and then proceeds to state that most of them are true to some extent.
Unzipping and compiling software IS beyond the abilities of most people.
Using the exact same software as family members and friends who can help IS of critical importance to most users.
Since hard sectored floppy disks, Dell Rainbows, Zenith Z100’s and CP/M, the most important thing in desktop computing has been standardization. Microsoft and IBM figured that out with the first IBM-PC and Bill Gates rode that horse to incredible success. Users do not want to learn new operating systems or software. They will do it slowly, over time, but they won’t tolerate having to relearn everything at once.
People resist change. They like what they know. Windows is what they know. It’s standard. So is its software.
Yep.
The lack of viruses for Linux has little to do with any sort of alleged innate security or the competence of its user base. Trust me, with a little social engineering it’s just as easy to get a single-user sysadmin to install an infected package as it is to get a Windows user to install an infected MSI.
However, desktop Linux is such a tiny part of the marketplace today that it’s not worth it from a virus writer’s perspective to waste time on a Linux variant of some trojan. This is especially true if you’re writing a worm distributed via email; yes, you *can* write an OpenOffice worm, but why bother with all that effort when it’ll only pwn a tiny handful of boxes? In fact, the *density* of targets is so low that you can’t even achieve reliable viral transmission; even if you succeed in getting your virus onto one Linux box, the likelihood of it successfully *finding* another Linux box to spread to is very, very low.
Of course, if people start buying fewer Windows boxes and more Mac or Linux boxes *because* of the virus threat, then the total population (and population density) of Linux boxes will increase, while the population and density of Windows will decrease. This will cause the virus-writer to be more willing to write viruses for Linux and Mac, and we will see a commensurate spike in viruses for those platforms.
In the study of biological infections, this phenomenon is called the “Red Queen” principle. When an infectious agent optimizes itself to attack a particular common variant of some species, the agent’s success is dependent on the commonality of that variant; yet its very success causes a decrease in the occurrence of that variant. This in turn forces the agent to re-optimize for an alternative variant, which leads to cyclical patterns of variation over time.
“Unzipping and compiling software IS beyond the abilities of most people.”
Its also not needed on modern desktops which use either RPM or APT.. In Fedora for example if you download an RPM a box pops up that says ‘would you like to install’ you click yes, it ask for the admin password, and the installs..
“The lack of viruses for Linux has little to do with any sort of alleged innate security or the competence of its user base. Trust me, with a little social engineering its just as easy to get a single-user sysadmin to install an infected package as it is to get a Windows user to install an infected MSI.”
That’s a Trojan, not a virus..
Or--you just choose "Add/Remove Software" from the menu and choose what you want. It does everything else for you.
Your very post here on FREE republic would suggest otherwise. It cost you nothing to read it, nothing to post it, nothing for me to respond. Yet it works. Enough people send money in voluntarily to make this the 7th highest rated conservative site. So much it for being a commie idea, don't you think?
Yeah, But I’ve found that most people are familiar with windows, and just don’t like or want anything new. Also, a lot of older devices don’t have drivers readily available, and lots of people don’t want to buy new stuff, when their old stuff is still good.
Science is free. You never hear of a single company owning the science of batteries, or storing electricity. Think about it. What would our world look like if scientific knowledge weren’t free, open-source information. When a scientific discovery is made, it’s peer reviewed, reproduced, and added to the pool of science. You could argue that some science is not free, i.e. patented drugs, etc. But even those have patent expirations.
Why should software code have to be any different? We live in a free society (supposedly). If you want to patent or keep your software closed, that’s your choice. But for those of us who want to develop software openly, that’s our choice also. So what’s with the “COMMIE” attacks?
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