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FReeper advice needed (Vanity) Time to go?

Posted on 03/08/2009 12:28:19 PM PDT by WhirlwindAttack

I've been here a while now, put a hundred into the kitty to keep the site up so I'm posting a vanity asking for some advice. My family are all liberals I don't dare ask them their opinion. So here goes.


My bride and I both see bad things coming. We are buying 5 acres in rural south central Tennessee on contract from a friend. No house, just partially wooded land. We've been saving our money and investing in heirloom seeds, long term food supply that we eat and rotate, and camping gear.

I weld and am a jack of all trades. My wife has only ever worked as a retail bookseller. We're healthy but a little overfed.

We are considering leaving our apartment in Indiana when our lease is up in May. It's in a college town of over 100K. and very liberal. The plan is to store what we don't need immediately ( we have storage available until July of next year.). Go down south, pitch a camp and dig a privy then go forth to find work. We will be planting a garden and trying to get a small cabin weathered in before winter. I want to build a home as we earn the cash money to buy materials and do this without a mortgage.


I would rather get out while I can and keep her safe than stay here and she feels the same way.


So here's the crux of the matter, I'm 48 former USAF and don't like to take rash jumps into the unknown. I have however been in the third world, started over with nothing twice and am with the love of my life. She is 30, brilliant, sews, weaves, throws pottery, and has the ability to build her own kiln.
She's a former LDS and fell right in line with my food storage quirks not to mention she's a dead shot with everything I've put in her hands.
She thinks that pioneering will be an adventure. I know it will be hard work. Her parents have told us they admire our courage and want to know when to expect grandchildren. ( Sorry gonna have to wait Mom )


FRiends I'm worried I'm missing something. I like the benefits of civilization like hot showers and flush toilets. But being out of the cities when they do go wonky holds more appeal.


I welcome your comments.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Society
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To: Red_Devil 232; WhirlwindAttack
What's the alope and area you wont to plant a garden?

It's still early but as soon as there's a thaw, clear out the area getting rid of the maples and rubbish trees giving light to the clearing. It helps if you can broadcast annual rye (which is cheap) over the area, then till it under just before summer starts. You'll add Nitrogen and organic matter to the soil ahead of time. (BTW, I'm not an organic farmer.)

Got any wood ashes from the fireplace or any other source? Save 'em and spread 'em. This'll help condition the soil and add P and K to the mixture.

If you can, take a soil sample to the local college ag dept. or county agent. The readout will give you numbers which will help you buying admendments. (This is Step 1)
101 posted on 03/08/2009 4:35:49 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: WhirlwindAttack

fascinating. ping for later reading. research bartering for services. can you hunt on your land?


102 posted on 03/08/2009 4:42:24 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: WhirlwindAttack

Any other gardening books? “Carrots Love Tomatoes” and “Square Foot Gardening” are some more suggestions, if you don’t already have ‘em.

Not 100 per cent sure about your intended terrain, but getting some kind of books on laying stone walls (particularly, laying them dry for boundaries and the like; or for that matter, laying them to build the house or components thereof) might be a good idea as well. :’)

Someone already cautioned about buying land from a friend. Real estate does bring out the worst in people (even worse than Demwit partisan politics in an election year). Get everything in writing after talking it over thoroughly.

Someone already suggested guns and ammo, also a good call.

Block and tackle or powered winch (for moving lots of things which will need to be moved, such as trees you cut down, rocks, etc). My dad used to pick up very handy old-style tools at the big used-to-be-Amish fleamarket in Shipshewana, but since you’re in Indiana, I’m sure you know about that.


103 posted on 03/08/2009 4:43:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yep Hardin. Shelby is where the in laws are. Dooh


104 posted on 03/08/2009 4:45:25 PM PDT by WhirlwindAttack
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To: thefactor; FrdmLvr; Twinkie
Hunting is good there. Fishing too.
I think we are going to continue to shelter in place here until I have the utilities in place and have at least a travel trailer in place.
Reduce reuse and simplify. Save as much as I can and go at it hard as soon as the basics are in place.

My wife agreed with this after she read the thread. She likes the idea of children born in a hospital covered by insurance too so it looks like I need to get on that project first.

105 posted on 03/08/2009 5:00:00 PM PDT by WhirlwindAttack
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To: WhirlwindAttack

Gave it a little more thought, sounds like you’ve got just about all of the bases covered. But, communications. Cell reception. Availability of internet - via dish?

Other means of communication, shortwave?

They’ll matter.

Soil - red clay? Growing a decent garden in it is an acquired skill, ask your friends from whom you’re buying the land. Acidic usually, so lime, compost to break it up, maybe even a little sand. It’ll bake hard as a rock in the summer. There’s a reason so much brick is manufactured in the south, and that it’s red.

Also, tornadoes are different in the south. Smaller, less frequent than midwest, but much more likely to occur at night. Shelter arrangements for that until you have a solid structure, and a means of getting advance warning. Those little hand-crank/solar weather radios are cheap.

Most people will be better off staying put, but it sounds as if you and your wife are well equipped, psychologically and skills-wise, to make a go of it.

Good luck.


106 posted on 03/08/2009 5:02:40 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SunkenCiv
We had a lawyer do all the contracts and recorded it at the assessors office. I do agree money tends to bring out the worst but I'm confident with the person, terms and conditions.

Got the gun thing covered.

Shipshewana, I'd forgotten all about the big flea market there, Thanks

107 posted on 03/08/2009 5:07:44 PM PDT by WhirlwindAttack
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To: mysterio

You won’t have 10 years.

Only God will save from anything to anything Good.

Being in a rural area can buy some time for more prayer; preparation for whatever else is coming; ministering to refugees etc.


108 posted on 03/08/2009 5:17:43 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Domandred
Even a small one room shack is better than a tent after about a week.

Maybe it's just me - or that I live and have camped Florida - but a one room shack is better than a tent after one day...

109 posted on 03/08/2009 5:18:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obama needs adoration to prop up his empty suit. He's open to manipulation by professional thugs.)
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To: Quix

You feel that the entire world will be over in ten years?


110 posted on 03/08/2009 5:23:09 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: LucyT

GREAT. THANKS.


111 posted on 03/08/2009 5:29:13 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: WhirlwindAttack

Excellent!

Gardening ‘blog
Our Tiny Little Minds | December 4, 2006 | yours truly, et al
Posted on 12/03/2006 9:36:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1748035/posts


112 posted on 03/08/2009 5:33:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: mysterio

The world will endure until God is ready to do away with it and create a new one.

Do I believe that the Biblical literal Armageddon will be over within 10 years.

Yes. I do.

Certainly within 12.

Tooooo many serious trend lines MUST peak before then.

Tooo many extremely diverse sources are talking about the Oligarchy staging various dramatic events toward such eventualities well before then . . . some beginning this year . . . evidently some beginning this summer or next.

The deliberated crashing and utter destruction of the dollar —to be replaced by the more overt global economic system and currency(-ies) is well under way already.

The deliberate shredding and destruction of the USA toward the more overt establishment of the global government is well under way already.

How many

HANDWRITING ON THE WALL DECLARATIONS

are you waiting for?


113 posted on 03/08/2009 5:37:08 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: LucyT

Thanks, LucyT...will bookmark his thread.


114 posted on 03/08/2009 6:07:28 PM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: LucyT; WhirlwindAttack

The folks I know that have done this get the water and

power lined up first,,,

Then the road,,,

Clear a spot for a small trailer,,,

Get themselves onsite,,,

Build a good shed/barn/shop,,,

Then the house,,,

Gotta have a Pick-Em-Up Truck!!!

Buy Two ChainSawZZ!!!
(hint : if ya’ pull on that cord they make a hellovarackit!
but they Cut better!)...;0)


115 posted on 03/08/2009 6:33:16 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

http://taxdayteaparty.com/teaparty/louisiana/

Shreveport, 4/15


116 posted on 03/08/2009 6:35:02 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

TANKS,Abb...


117 posted on 03/08/2009 7:15:41 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: WhirlwindAttack

Someone posted this yesterday. Just thought it was interesting.

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2008/10/mistakes-survivalists-make.html


118 posted on 03/08/2009 7:21:20 PM PDT by TexasAg
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To: WhirlwindAttack
“So we better get some deet for the mosquitoes then.”

My hubby and I do not use Deet, as it is bad for your skin. Get some Neutragena After Bath oil...sesame seed formula. Mix half and half with rubbing alcohol and put in a spray bottle. Spray just lightly on skin in the mornings and it will last all day. Keeps mosquitoes, no-seeims, and chiggers away! :)

119 posted on 03/08/2009 7:35:03 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: WhirlwindAttack

Admire your spirit. Be sure to check into cost of getting electric, water, and septic in. You might think about getting a house trailer on your property and not plan on a tent for more than a week. Being out in the woods you need to think of bears and such. You would be safer in a trailer until you can get your home built. :)


120 posted on 03/08/2009 7:40:34 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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