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Things every Windows to Mac switcher should know upfront
Mac Daily News ^ | Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 09:59 AM EST

Posted on 03/07/2009 6:44:52 PM PST by Swordmaker

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To: RegulatorCountry
Microsoft ripped off Apple

Mebbe true but who do you think Apple ripped off?
Xerox Palo Alto Research Center. AKA Xerox PARC. They had windows and mice first.

101 posted on 03/08/2009 6:36:15 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage...)
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To: Leonard210
Mac usrs generally talk about computers and operating systems

too stupid to use Macs.

Microsoft Windows dullard

You were saying?

102 posted on 03/08/2009 7:19:08 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

It was far from a ripoff, Bloody Sam Roberts. Xerox was well compensated and agreed to the exchange before the fact, as has been outlined several times on this thread.

MS, on the other hand, compensated no one, not until the lawsuits were settled at least.


103 posted on 03/08/2009 8:27:09 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

You are correct. Perhaps ‘ripoff’ was a tad strong.


104 posted on 03/08/2009 8:45:56 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage...)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The inspiration that led to the Mac was languishing at Xerox. Apple saw the potential of the desktop metaphor with graphical user interface, the ease of use of point and click via mouse versus memorizing code, and expanded greatly upon it, with the permission of Xerox. Even their first run at it, commercially, was something of a disappointment, the Lisa.

But, then came the Mac, given a level of buzz that is difficult to grasp now via the Superbowl ad in 84, and, most of all, PostScript, which is really underappreciated in hindsight. Desktop publishing as we know it wouldn’t have come into being without it, and DTP is what made the Mac a success.

Apple floundered around for the best part of a decade after their initial wild success, and MS caught up in several respects, by hook or by crook (mostly crook). Corporate IT departments didn’t like the comparative stability of the platform, considered it something of a threat to their goldplated priesthood, and already had considerable investment in DOS, so continued with MS platforms and disparaged Apple at every turn ... FUD, fear, uncertainty and doubt. This allowed Windows PCs to predominate.

Now, the shoe’s on the other foot. MS is floundering. Apple is ascendant. As a longtime Mac user, I can’t say I’m not enjoying it, lol.


105 posted on 03/08/2009 9:16:54 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: lefty-lie-spy
What do you find lacking in Finder? I enjoy its streamlined ease-of-use-ness.

Cut-Copy-Paste files would be nice (cut as a metaphor for 'move'). I like an alphabetized list of folders at the top of each folder list, impossible in finder. I like icons to be small but thumbnails to be larger, also impossible in Finder. A tree view of folders would be nice, too. Finder won't remember any folder preferences, you have to set them each time (Tiger OSX 10.4) - this one is the worst.

I haven't used Finder for a while so I can't remember a lot of the shortcomings that drove me to buy Path Finder.

106 posted on 03/08/2009 9:35:36 AM PDT by Spirochete
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To: Minn

Up until comment 16 (your comment) NO ONE said anything about Windows users. YOU made a snide comment about Mac USERS. As did someone before you. You threw a rock. Don’t tell me you missed that.


107 posted on 03/08/2009 9:45:23 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagliine.)
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To: Hoplite
LOLz

You, sir, are a giver/nurturer/world-class wi53a55.

108 posted on 03/08/2009 9:52:00 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Swordmaker

Well then perhaps you’d better write to movie producers ... I still find that Mac is harder to use than any PC ... I simply do not like Mac’s .... IMHO


109 posted on 03/08/2009 10:24:39 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Leonard210
Up until comment 16 (your comment) NO ONE said anything about Windows users.

Nobody? Nobody except the author of the article and those he chose to quote approvingly. Just who are the dullards and stupid people being referred to? Do you see the problem with your reasoning? The thing about how Mac users are all about the machine, when the article written by a Mac user and repeatedly bumped by Mac users is all about how use of the Windows has dumbed people down? Are you for real, or just clowning?

110 posted on 03/08/2009 10:47:08 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: fremont_steve
“Linux is internally very different from OSX, but they have the same basic API as far as running software which is based on Unix. The big difference is really the GUI and the apps you get with each.”

So it is likely when Apple tanks OSX could be another free distro? Cool, no bloated expense for the hardware and Jobs trademarked name.

:-0

Thanks for the info.

111 posted on 03/08/2009 11:03:22 AM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: NonLinear

LOL. XP is such a stable OS and has minimal overhead for what you can do. Also lots of Freeware out there!!!


112 posted on 03/08/2009 11:05:27 AM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: Minn

I, er...what? You were drivin by, saw a Mac thread and decided to stop in to call Mac users twits, specifically, and you want to justify it cause the author said “Windows” made him “too stupid to use a Mac”. Come on Minn, you came to pick a fight. Mission accomplished.


113 posted on 03/08/2009 11:21:48 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagliine.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Xerox Windows? No such animal. Microsoft ripped off Apple, with the undisclosed-settlement-amount settled lawsuits to prove it.

The genesis of all windows systems came from the Xerox 8010 Star and 6085 computer systems. Xerox PARC scientists invented the mouse, networked storage, networked printing, email and the method used to map virtually every language to a computer keyboard.

The reason most people don't know about this is that Xerox management were idiots and gave a sneak peak to Steve Jobs and his Mac engineering team. They were rightfully blown away, because nobody had ever seen something as elegant and workable as the Xerox desktop.

I was fortunate to work for Xerox Parc during the early 1980's. Today, I use a Mac.

114 posted on 03/08/2009 12:10:20 PM PDT by GunnyB (Once a Marine, Always a Marine)
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To: GunnyB

Idiots? They were very well compensated, and agreed beforehand.


115 posted on 03/08/2009 12:12:05 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Minn
So Minn, I thought about your comment again and decided to see what the author said that may have set you off. MacDailyNews (no author credited) was quoting from Winn Schwartau in a 2005 article. Mr. Schwartau's comment, in context, was clearly intended as self-deprecating humor. You, however, chose ignore the humor and to disparage Mac users rather than castigate the author.

For the record: I have not met one Mac user at FreeRepublic who could in any manner be characterized as a "twit". Many are dual (or triple) platform users with a preference for Macs. Many more are lifetime Windows users who have switched in the past couple of years and are happier with the new OS (and say so) only to get trashed by folks like, well you.

You're better than that Minn. MacFreepers aren't twits. Hang around, you will eventually come to the same conclusion.
116 posted on 03/08/2009 12:50:03 PM PDT by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagliine.)
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To: ThreePuttinDude
"I just bought a new laptop with vista"

There's your problem.
117 posted on 03/08/2009 12:52:38 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (1st call: Abbas. 1st interview: Al Arabiya. 1st energy decision: halt drilling in UT. Arabs 1st!)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Idiots? They were very well compensated, and agreed beforehand.

QED.

118 posted on 03/08/2009 9:33:44 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

You think this proves they were idiots? It’s not as if Xerox was getting anywhere with it on their own.


119 posted on 03/08/2009 9:39:41 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
It’s not as if Xerox was getting anywhere with it on their own.

QED, again.

Had they not been idiots, Xerox could have been MSFT and AAPL rolled into one. Instead, they accepted a pittance. XRX shareholders were ill-served.

120 posted on 03/08/2009 9:48:04 PM PDT by cynwoody
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