Posted on 02/21/2009 6:30:20 PM PST by JoeProBono
In January 2009, I had the distinct pleasure to meet one of the greats of Ufology. Kathleen Marden is the niece of Betty Hill, who was involved with her husband Barney, in a highly publicized abduction on September 20, 1961. The factor that makes this unique is that the abductors brought their victims on board a spaceship, the likes of which defied imagination.
Betty and Barney Hills account is documented in the well written book CAPTURED! The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience by Kathy Marden and Ufologist and original Roswell crash researcher, Stanton T. Friedman, MSc, so I will not try to duplicate efforts. Instead, I will refer you to their work for the historical account.
This abduction by alien entities originated several notable firsts. This would become the most publicized alien abduction in history to date, due in part to the amazing level of detail that has become known. This account also benefitted from the believability of Betty and Barney. Never were there two people who shunned the spotlight more than the Hills. The Hills were leaders in their community and well-respected. Betty was a social worker, and both were members of the NAACP. Barney was passionate about his civil rights work, having contributed to the movement as a member of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission in his home state of New Hampshire.
Another first would be the use of hypnosis in the treatment of the Hills to uncover their hidden memories. Contrary to some claims, the Hills did not immediately remember everything that had occurred. The treatment was undertaken by Dr. Benjamin Simon, who was the first to theorize and later prove the validity of hypnotherapy in the treatment of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder among war veterans. This was not the only factor that made Dr. Simon the perfect person to treat the Hills. Dr. Simon did not believe in the extraterrestrial hypothesis, the belief that some unidentified flying objects are in reality extraterrestrial spacecraft piloted by alien entities, what some derisively refer to as "little green men". By believing there to be another causal factor to their condition, the Hills were not "led" by the doctor into erroneous memory recollections. The introduction of Dr. Simon lent to the validity of the account of abduction by aliens.
It was my brother and sister with me and it was the summer of 67. Maybe 8pm.
I think your ASSUMPTIONS are quite flawed.
Everybody has an opinion.
Actually,
NOT AT ALL.
Certainly a minority of cases do . . . but those which experienced researchers
and experienced clinicians . . . vet . . .
your assertion would be laughable regarding those cases.
John Mack—chief psychiatrist of a unit at Harvard Medical school was no slouch in assessing such cases.
There are other well known researchers and therapists who can spot the flakey hoaxy stuff a mile away.
Evidently your familiarity with the genre is so anemic as to leave you with an incredible paucity of discrimminating skills in distinguishing the chaff from the authentic.
pity.
I was born summer 67. I was a baby at the time. Don’t know exactly how old so it had to have been in 67 or 68. Odd that it happened about the same time, isn’t it? I’ll have to ask my dad again the exact details and write them down—I’m remembering the basics though accurately and it sounds very similar to your account.
What did your brother and sister think? What part of the country was it?
NO!
The Betty and Barney Hill case has NOT been discredited.
Stanton Friedman and other famous researchers have been over it backwards and forwards and verified it’s authenticity from a number of directions and perspectives.
The star map Betty was evidently shown on the craft and was able to recall . . . turns out to have been quite accurate when at the time our astronomers did not know such to be the case. Later discoveries proved Betty quite accurate on all the 3 dimensions.
Toledo, Ohio and they hid behind me. And we never told anyone. :-)
GOODNESS, Joe!
When flaming ignorance flares, it flares big on these threads!
The threat of the paradigm shift must be toooooo huge a looming freak-out to the emotional existential constructions on reality by the typical naysayer.
Some are sounding increasingly brittle . . . maybe even paranoid.
Great list! I’d have to add Jessica Rabbit to my “anywhere, anytime” cartoon list.
Thanks for your report.
There must be at least a dozen FREEPERS who have had first hand experiences . . . and commented to Las Vegas Dave and I—maybe 2 dozen.
And a very few folks who’ve come across them in their ‘government’ jobs.
I don’t know much about Toledo. Was it right in the city? A more rural area outside the city? That’s funny you didn’t mention it to anyone. People would probably think you were crazy. You didn’t even tell your parents?
How many 10’s of thousands of quality documents have you read on the topic?
How many world famous researchers have you talked to face to face about the topic around the world?
How many relatives/and/or close friends have you had working around the craft?
How much fair-mindedness can you muster about the topic on a good day? 0-100? ______
What would concern you the most were such things to be proven true to you beyond a shadow of a doubt?
correction
10’s of thousands of document PAGES . . . have you read.
It was in the city. And we didn’t tell anyone. But we ran all the way to Dad’s house. :-)
It’s interesting. It was always interesting to me to hear the tale. I just wish I had been old enough to have witnessed it. My brothers were 9, 10, 11 at the time so they can remember it. I’ll have to interview my dad and get the account down just for future reference. Maybe I can pin down the time of it. My mom stayed inside the house. Seems to me she was ironing or something, I can’t remember, but she’s good about remembering details like what month, etc. It didn’t even come to my mind until DJ MacWoW mentioned his encounter.
GREAT! THANKS THANKS.
Please ping me when you post.
My wife and saw a bright light in the Arizona sky. All of a sudden it took off so fast that it left a “light trail” to the eye. We saw several do this within a few minutes. And we saw one that was rotating and little blinking lights came from the bottom and then would float upward and out of sight. After about ten of “these” came out the bright white light took off and disappeared from sight in no more than a second.
Doubters can also see what Travis (can’t remember his last name) from the movie Fire in the Sky had to say. All involved in that took and passed a lie detector test. He was gone for several days and when he was found he was naked and cowering on a front porch of some closed store. Very believable.
I will do that. He is getting up there in age now and his mind is slipping some, but his long term memory is still good.
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