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Youth Corps to help keep California green
AFP ^ | March 16, 2009
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 7:47:40 PM by Free ThinkerNY
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has announced the creation of a youth environmental corps tasked with protecting California’s verdant ecology, while training for future employment in the emerging “green economy.”
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0203CAT/020321.graham.bread.htm
TREATISE ON BREAD,
AND
BREAD-MAKING.
BY SYLVESTER GRAHAM.
“Bread strengtheneth man’s heart.”—HOLY WRIT.
BOSTON:
LIGHT & STEARNS, 1 CORNHILL.
1837.
Entered according to Act of Congress, in the year 1837, by LIGHT & STEARNS, in the Clerk’s Office of the District Court of Massachusetts.
Reprinted by
LEE FOUNDATION FOR NUTRITIONAL RESEARCH
Milwaukee 1, Wisconsin
[It is all on this page, interesting and strangely with a fast read, it reads as tho it were written today.
Take time to read it, there is a lot of truth in it....granny]
THE
WHEEL OF HEALTH
by
G. T. WRENCH, M.D. (Lond.)
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0203CAT/020301wrench/02030100frame.html
A Man of Hunza
Reproduced with kind permission from “Unknown Karakoram”
by Colonel R.C.F. Schomberg (Martin Hopkinson, Ltd., London)
Originally printed in 1938
by
LONDON: THE C. W. DANIEL COMPANY LTD.
Available in the Soil and Health Library
by permission of the C.W. Daniel Company, Ltd.
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0203CAT/020301wrench/020301ch7-9.html
[part of chapter 9, re: Hunza gardens]
PART II — CULTIVATION
The cultivation of the Hunza is that of irrigated, staircase terraces in mountain valleys, and it is probable that it is not only the greatest but it is also the oldest form of agriculture. That is not proven, but it is a growing conviction which Professor Haldane voices in The Inequality of Man (1932) that “agriculture started in the mountains, and only later spread to the river valleys.”
The importance of the method of culture of food is primary, radical, and fundamental in the matter of health. It exceeds all other aspects of nutrition—if, that is, one separates any aspect of what is a whole. I make no apology, therefore, for asking my readers to leave the Himalaya for a time and transfer themselves to the next mightiest range of mountains, the Andes of Peru. It was in their valleys that the irrigated, staircase farming reached its highest known development.
Twenty years ago the National Geographic Society of the United States sent an expedition to Peru to study the relics of agricultural methods of its ancient people. Mr. O. F. Cook, of the Bureau of Plant Industry of the U.S.A. Department of Agriculture, was attached as botanist, and he published a report entitled “Staircase Farms of the Ancients” in the Society’s magazine of May, 1916.
“Agriculture is not a lost art,” are his opening words, “but must be reckoned as one of those which reached a remarkable development in the remote past and afterward declined. The system of the ancient Peruvians enabled them to support large populations in places where modern farmers would be helpless.”
The system reached its culmination centuries before Columbus discovered America, and before the Incas ruled in Peru. The people who created it have left no written records and bear no historic name. They are, therefore, called after the most striking feature of their work, the megalithic people, because they built the walls of their terraced fields and aqueducts of great stones. These they made to fit, the one with the other, with such accuracy that even to this day they are like those of the Egyptian pyramids, a knife blade cannot be inserted between them.
The megalithic people were great builders with stone. So, following the same traditions, were the Incas. But the work under the Incas was not such a careful fitting, and frequently the interspaces were filled in with clay.
The method of their making of a stairway of terraced fields need not be described. It is much the same as that followed in other mountainous parts, such as, for one, the present Gilgit Agency. The result is a small flat field. Photographed in cross-section, the fields show so many feet of coarse stones and clay below and so many of soil above. The soil was originally imported from beyond the great mountains, for the steep mountain slopes and valleys did not provide it in sufficient quantity. It was refreshed by the silt which the irrigating water brought from the mountains. The soil is still in its place to this day, and to this day each terrace shows the same inside structure whenever walls are removed.
The fields rise up the slopes of the mountains, tier upon tier, for sometimes over fifty tiers. Some of the walls of the megalithic people are so enormous and well fitted and so formidable in their show of power, that most western travellers have believed them to be fortresses and described them as such, which “only shows how far our own race is from appreciating the devotion of the ancient people to their agricultural pursuits.”
Similar fields were built in the valleys themselves. Valley rivers were straightened in their courses and their destructive overflows controlled.
Such were the megalithic achievements in reclamation, besides which, says Cook, in italics, “our undertakings sink into insignificance on the face of what this vanished race accomplished. The narrow floors and steep walls of rocky valleys that would appear utterly worthless and hopeless to our engineers were transformed, literally made over, into fertile lands, and were the homes of teeming populations in the prehistoric days.” Even to this day thousands of these acres are still fertile and the main support of the native population, who accept them as a matter of course and make no enquiry as to their origin.
The staircase fields were irrigated. The aqueducts were often of great length. Prescott states that “one that traversed the district of Condesuyu measured between four and five hundred miles.” Cook publishes a photograph of an aqueduct as a thin dark line traversing a steep mountain wall many hundreds of feet above the valley. It gives one an overwhelming impression of these colossal works, a sudden sense of the stupendousness which is theirs. They were national works, solely for the good of the people. Beside them, as Cook says, the far-famed hanging gardens of Babylon—a pyramid with broad steps of troughs holding soil—was a toy; built, perhaps, to please Nebuchadnezzar’s Median queen as a reminder of the terraced culture of her home.
Such works must, one thinks, have supported an agriculture no less wonderful than themselves. This was the case. These Peruvian staircase gardens were a centre, and probably the most important centre, where the agriculture of indigenous American civilizations was created. In them were domesticated and from them were dispersed over the rest of the Americas many vegetable foods.
“The following partial list of the Peruvian crop plants,” writes Mr. Cook, “may give an idea of the extent and variety of domestications that were accomplished in Peru: Achupalla (pineapple), anu (Tropacolum), apichu (sweet potato), apincoya (Grandilla), arracacacha (Arracacia), chirimaya, chui (bean), coca (Erythroxylum), cumara (sweet potato), inchis (peanut), oca (oxalic), pallar (Lima bean), papa (potato), papaya poro (bottle gourd), purutu (frejol), quinoa (Chenopodium), rocoto (Capsicum), rumu (Manihot), sauwinto (guava), sara (maize), tintin (Tacsonia), ullucu (Ullucus), uncucha (Xanthosna), utar (cotton).
“A complete list of the plants that were cultivated by the ancient Peruvians has yet to be made, but it will probably include between seventy and eighty species. A large part are root crops, vegetables and fruits, but some are seed crops, pot herbs, condiments, medicinal plants, dyes, and ornamentals. Annual plants predominate in numbers and importance, but perennials, shrubs and trees are also well represented.”
Returning to the Gilgit Agency, one would expect similarities between the conditions of the Andes and north-western Himalaya, both ranges of exceeding loftiness, well sunned and without excessive rainfall. One would expect these similarities to produce from intelligent peoples a similarity of agriculture.
The agriculture of the valleys of the Gilgit Agency are cultivated by means of terraced fields and irrigation, as were the valleys of ancient Peru.
Further, the area of the Gilgit Agency and its neighbour, the mountainous parts of Afghanistan, once formed an agricultural centre in the same way as Peru. The resemblance of the two greatest mountain areas is very close indeed.
Hunza, which is the best product of the Gilgit Agency, itself is but a microcosm of the Peruvian Empire. In both the people were eager for land, they were in the modern phrase starved for land. Upon their own great efforts depended their continuance as a people in the mountain valleys. So both became distinguished at their best by the arduous perfection of their toil.
It is a most happy fortune that one of the visitors of Hunza was a man who combined artistic sense,historical knowledge, love of mountains, and a sensitive observation in a degree which would be rare in each several faculty. The late Lord Conway explored and climbed both in the Andes and the Western Himalaya.
He was the first to place the redoubtable Hunza in their rightful historic place. “The terraced fields,” he wrote, in The Bolivian Andes (1901)—Bolivia was a part of Ancient Peru— “reaching aloft, awake vivid reminiscences of the mountain scenery of the north-west frontier of India—as, for instance, in Hunza, where the native population are living in a stage of civilization that must bear no little likeness to that of the Peruvians under Inca government.”
In Climbing and Exploration in the Karakorum Himalaya (1894), seven years before his visit to the Andes, Conway gave a picture of Hunza which he came to recognize as a microcosm of Ancient Peru. He was on his way to Baltit, the capital of Hunza.
“The path that leads up to Baltit is bordered on either side by a wall of dry cyclopean masonry, the undressed component parts of which are very large and excellently fitted together. Where the slope steepens these walls are placed further apart, and short zigzags are built up between them—a monumental piece of simple engineering. We walked slowly, for there was much to look at, the cultivation being everywhere admirable and each step disclosing some new detail of beauty or interest. The whole of this side of the debris-filled floor of the valley between the cliffs and edge of the river’s gorge is covered with terraced fields. They are terraced because they must be flat in order that the irrigating water may lie on them. The downward edge of each terrace must be supported by a strong stone wall, and every one of these is of cyclopean work, like those just described. The cultivated area of the oasis is some five square miles in extent. When it is remembered that the individual fields average as many as twenty to the acre, it will be seen what a stupendous mass of work was involved in the building of these walls and the collection of earth to fill them. The walls have every appearance of great antiquity, and alone suffice to prove the long existence in this remote valley of an organized and industrious community. . . .
“To build these fields was the smaller part of the difficulties that husbandmen had to face in Hunza. The fields also had to be irrigated. For this purpose there was but one perennial supply of water—the torrent from the Ultar glacier. The snout of that glacier, as has been stated, lies deep in a rockbound gorge, whose sides are for a space perpendicular cliffs. The torrent had to be tapped, and a canal of sufficient volume to irrigate so large an area had to be carried across the face of one of these precipices. The Alps contain no Wasserleitung which for volume and boldness of position can be compared to the Hunza canal. It is a wonderful work for such toolless people as the Hunzakats to have accomplished, and it must have been done many centuries ago and maintained ever since, for it is the life-blood of the valley.”
The Peruvians were also comparatively toolless. “That they should have accomplished these difficult works with such tools as they possessed is truly wonderful,” are Prescott’s words.
Conway continues with a brief account of the social system of the Hunza, which was at his time a miniature of that of the Incas of Peru. He calls it semi-civilized. I do not think that is a permissible term. It is a fully developed form of association of men for their own benefit, supported by tradition and an accepted form of authority for its execution and adaptation to any unusual conditions that occur. It is, in a word, a definite form of agricultural civilization.
continues...
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Have you read about this greenhouse covering, it should work and it is amazing how he makes the bubbles for the sandwiched layers.........use soap.
As I read it, join his Yahoo group and the plans are posted....
granny
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/steve_bosserman/2007/10/09/greenhouses_that_change_the_world.htm
October 09, 2007
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Greenhouses That Change the World
Categories
Knowledge Broker
Social Agriculture
Social Justice
Rick Nelson is the inventor of SolaRoof, a novel approach to greenhouse design and function that integrates a unique covering, heating / cooling system, and infrastructure / framework. It will revolutionize the greenhouse industry. More than that, once the materials are certified for use in human habitation, it will be disruptive to the housing and building industry as well. So what is SolaRoof, anyway, and why does it carry such potential to change the world? Let’s find out.
Revolutionary Technology:
The greenhouse construction is unlike any other. Rather than a single layer of covering or glazing there are two. Each layer is a laminate of woven fiber mesh sandwiched in between two sheets of transparent plastic material. The laminated layers are sealed against the top and bottom of the roof and wall frames to create air-tight spaces. This combination by itself offers hardly any insulating value. However, fill the space with bubbles—yes, bubbles—and the equation becomes totally different!
The distance between the two layers varies depending on the desired amount of insulating value. Each inch is roughly equivalent to an R-factor of 1. A distance of a little over a yard yields an R-factor of nearly 40. That is almost unheard of in traditional construction techniques. And given the transparency of the two layers of covering, over 80% of the photosynthesis-catalyzing sunlight reaches the inside of the greenhouse.
In the SolaRoof webpage: Green Buildings for Urban Agriculture and Solar Living, two illustrations show how the process works from one extreme season to the next. Quite ingenius!
Here is a picture of a greenhouse unit as its side is being filled with bubbles:
Bubble Generation.jpg
And here is what it looks like when the cavity is completely full:
Bubble Filled.jpg
Unbounded Architectural Form:
While the technology is intriguing, it is only part of the picture when determining the disruptive value of SolaRoof. Another feature is that the shape of the structure is no longer confined to a standard box or cube that characterizes many homes, buildings, or greenhouses. It can be made to fit into an infinite array of shapes, sizes, and configurations. One of Rick’s collaborators, Harvey Rayner, who is the founder of Solar Bubble Build, describes the possibilities of the SolaRoof medium as follows:
“Architecture has been a long-held passion for me, but my unwillingness to engage in academic study has kept me from pursuing any real investigation into this field. Now, having started this project initially as a practical solution to expanding my wife’s rare herb growing business, I have become engrossed in the process of designing, building and developing this technology.
Increasingly, I am viewing this work as an inroad towards one day creating pure and functional architectural forms. For me, this new breed of building gets right to the heart of how form can follow function. I believe with this technology as a starting point, unique structures can be derived which reflect the beauty of the inner workings of this truly sustainable building solution.”
Several examples of Harvey’s designs are featured on Bluegreen Future Buildings.
Open Source for Everyone:
While Rick has spent over thirty years developing and refining the technologies associated with SolaRoof materials and applications, the bulk or his output is non-proprietary and open source. Anyone is welcome to join the SolaRoof Yahoo! Group wherein there are member information exchanges, articles about SolaRoof, photos, and diagrams—all is free for the taking. Rick sums it up quite well in his introduction to the SolaRoof group:
“You are welcome to join this open source collaboration where we are developing and sharing DIY(Do It Yourself) know-how for building transparent solar structures. To enhance our collaborative development of the SolaRoof methods we now are building a knowledge base where everyone can contribute to building the SolaRoofWiKi. SolaRoof structures may include but are not limited to greenhouses, sunspaces, roof gardens, residential spaces... The goal of our discussion is how to use the sun’s energy to grow food, cool and heat spaces efficiently, rather than rely on fossil fuels and power grids. Our technology includes the use of bubbles to shade and insulate glazing systems, together with liquid solar collection and thermal mass storage, although any related discussions are welcome!”
SolaRoof Saves World:
This bold pronouncement is found on hi-trust.tv, one of Chris Macrae’s video experiments. Chris, knowledge management and branding expert, offered the following endorsement of the power and potential of SolaRoof:
“Rick has also been using what I amateurishly call photosynthesis agriculture and architecture innovations for over 20 years. I have known him for about 4 years in my capacity of hosting radical innovation meetings round London. I suggest a triple-wishing game - you mention a region or peoples in the world where sustainability that matters most to you, and Rick answers with what is doable now, what is developing, and what is his biggest collaboration wish for the region.
Perhaps we can make more videos if people decide this is one of the world’s great unknown practices worthy of a bit more open source weaving. (see Chris Macrae and Rick Nelson on YouTube)
Equally, if anyone knows someone else with inventions that empower every community to the other side of sustainability fuels (water, food, energy) crises, please see if they will join in. I would like to publish a small leaflet on the 5 most radically open guides to how peoples everywhere could collaborate around human sustainability if we take up the challenge and agree urgency is so great that we don’t need any marginal solutions; we need radical experiments...”
And in a posting on crisisclimate.tv, Chris describes the ramifications for SolaRoof as the underpinnings for a new business enterprise, Life Synthesis LLP, that aspires to the following:
“...to shelter residential communities within SolaRoof systems. This includes replacing conventional resource and energy intensive climate control systems with new and dynamic structures that capture and use solar energy by bringing daylight and plants into buildings. These ecologically designed, low cost SolaRoof structures use energy capture, storage, and cooling methods to incorporate plants, water and water based liquids, creating an integrated ecosystem within the building itself. SolaRoof is both accessible and affordable to those living in poverty, but at the same time desirable to the affluent.”
The Ball Is in Your Court
And that becomes an open invitation for any and all to take the opportunity afforded by this concept and apply it so that it makes a positive difference for the people directly involved, the community, the planet. Well worth the time and effort required to take up the challenge and do the right thing!
posted by Steve Bosserman on Tuesday October 9 2007
The bubble-producing agent is ordinary soap. There are three stages in bubble production: generation, regeneration, and destruction. All three stages involve three components: bubble generator (a simple blower and shroud unit), reservoirs on either side to collect the bubble agent after bubble production and usage, and a pump / plumbing to move the bubble agent from the reservoirs to the bubble generator. There is a complete, easy-to-follow description of this process on file at the SolaRoof Yahoo! Group, http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/solaroof/. Any and all are welcome to join. Steve B.
Posted by: Sepp on October 9, 2007 03:48 AM
Lack of bamboo makes one vulgar
Lack of pork makes one thin
In order to avoid vulgarity and slenderness
Have pork with bamboo shoots now and then.
Su Tun Po (12th-century)
http://www.josayoung.co.uk/page12.htm
http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/books/drt/DrT92-2.html
Avoiding Vitamin B-12 Deficiency
We have already discussed vitamin B12 and seen that it is essential to our life and well-being. Yet we require it in such small quantities and our body stores it so well that vegetarians probably have little need to be concerned about developing a deficiency, if they eat butter or milk products. But when we ingest certain things, our ability to absorb B12 and our stores of it tend to decrease markedly. Birth control pills, denatured alcoholic beverages and tobacco decrease the stored supply. Wine and beers made with yeast probably cause a deficiency only when used to great excess. The older person’s stomach produces the “intrinsic factor” in reduced quantities-this is a substance quite necessary to the vitamin’s absorption from the stomach and small intestine. The symptoms of B12 deficiency develop insidiously, but if they are recognized early, they are easily reversible-with replacement therapy. If they are not detected and treated early, the changes may become irreversible. Many people in India show the late neurological changes due to this deficiency. The actions of B12 and folic acid are complex.
Indeed, anemia due to B12 deficiency may even be countered with the use of folic acids. Folic acid is common in vegetables such as asparagus, kale, beets, greens, spinach, turnips and wheat bran. Thus a deficiency of folic acid in adults is less likely to occur than a B12 deficiency. But it may be common in children and young adults since they often avoid these foods. Folic acid can be lost with exposure to heat, air or light. Also, because it is water soluble, it may be lost to the liquids in which the greens are cooked. Therefore, it is wise to either drink the “pot liquor” or use it in soups and sauces. Up to 94% of pregnant women show some deficiency of folic acid, and it can quickly develop after trauma, burns or surgery.
The deficiency may worsen if vitamins C or B12 are also deficient. Now, our intestine can manufacture folic acid, but for that, paraminobenzoic acid needs to be present. This acid is often added to food supplements for this reason. Vitamin B12 can be absorbed from certain cereals, for example, when they have been treated by the addition of this acid. Vitamin B12 supplements can be taken by injections, about once a month, in pill form, which can be absorbed from the intestine if the “intrinsic factor” is present, or in liquid form that can be placed under the tongue for rapid absorption. B12 is often added as a supplement to breakfast cereals and other foods. Eating greens raw is a good way to assure adequate absorption. If you cannot obtain these foods fresh, then frozen greens are acceptable, as are canned greens, though they have lost most of their potency. Would I supplement my diet with these low nutritional substances?
Yes, as an older vegetarian, I do. And I highly recommend it for all vegetarians, especially children, women and older people who may live in metropolitan areas. Supplementation is absolutely necessary for those vegetarians who do not use dairy products.
http://www.paidtwice.com/category/tips-and-tricks/
Craigslist Vs eBay
Monday, May 5th, 2008
I had a comment last week on one of my older posts about selling items on Craigslist asking me what I thought about Craigslist and eBay, and when to use which service to sell your unneeded or unwanted belongings. I haven’t been using either lately, and I have not used eBay anywhere near as much as I used Craigslist in the past, but I have had some success using both services. I’ve put together a little rundown of what I think of each, what I’d recommend using each for, and the pros and cons I’ve encountered. I am by no means an expert, but I do like to get rid of things and get paid to do so, which is basically the requirement for using them. :)
To me, Craigslist is a way to try and unload anything. It is free, so you basically can list whatever you want, and if it doesn’t sell, it isn’t a big deal. It just costs you the time it took to list the ad. Which, in my experience, is pretty minimal. I like to include a picture of the item I am selling, so that takes a little longer, but still, my time investment is small. You set the price you want to sell the item for, and Craigslist provides an anonymous email listing, so you can screen potential buyers and just not respond to people who send you annoying responses. One of the cons is that you may need to give out your address to have someone collect their item. I have gotten around this by choosing to meet people in public places unless the item was too big for me to transport, and also having other people home than me when I have someone come to my house. But most often, I met people in a parking lot of a busy shopping center or store. Using Craigslist, I have gotten rid of many items that I never thought I would, such as unused bottles of lotion, baby bottles, miscellaneous toys and baby clothes, and other such items. The other con, for me, is that since I don’t want to have people generally come to my house, the items I am selling have to be expensive enough to warrant the gas it will take for me to drive somewhere to meet someone. That also puts a limit on how small and random the items I sell can be. And, since it is free, some buyers don’t take things seriously and completely flake out on you. Which, to me, is annoying. So, in summary:
* Craigslist Pros:
o Can list anything for free
o Small time investment
o Can get rid of things you never thought you might
o You can set your price, and refuse to sell for less
* Craigslist Cons:
o Might have people come to your house
o If not meeting at your house, have to use gas to get to location
o People are flaky
A final tip about Craigslist - this is a local service, so use it locally. Don’t respond to random people trying to get you to ship items here there and everywhere. Most likely, that is a scam of some sort. If you want to ship items, use a service where you’ll get your maximum audience - like eBay.
eBay has a wider audience, since it is not local service. This means that you’ll get more eyeballs on your items, and you can potentially sell for a bigger profit if things get bid up. However, since it is an auction service, if you want to set a minimum price for your item, that will cost you more. Which leads to a major con for me - it costs money to list on eBay. I don’t mind having to pay if the item sells, but even if you don’t sell your item, you have to pay a fee. You do get to relist for free, but I have had items that didn’t sell even with the free relisting, so I was still out the initial money to list the item. It is pretty easy to list items here as well - I found it took me more time than Craigslist but with practice I might have gotten better. However, you don’t want to list just anything - you want it to sell. You can search eBay for similar listings and what things have sold before, which is another plus - you can get a good idea of what might sell and what its value is. You also will have to ship items to buyers unless you choose to only sell for local pickup, and the item has to be worth someone wanting to pay for shipping for them to buy it. So that eats into your profit margin a little bit - a person isn’t going to buy an item worth $3 usually for $3 plus $5 shipping. And if an item is very large, you might not be able to find anyone willing to pay to have it shipped unless it is very valuable. So, in summary:
* eBay Pros:
o Wide audience
o Search for past sales and current sales
* eBay Cons:
o Costs money to list
o Have to ship items
On a personal level, I’ve had more success with Craigslist, but I have also have used it a lot more. I have only listed a handful of items on eBay, and although the items I sold there did sell for more than I had gotten for similar items on Craigslist, including the hassle of shipping and also having other items not sell, I didn’t make much more of a profit in the end using eBay than I did with Craigslist. For someone running a business, this would be different, but if you are simply trying to sell a few items to get them out of your house, and you aren’t setting up your own resale empire, Craigslist may be the way to go. But if you have unique or valuable items that are easily shippable and you want to get the best price for them, you may want to try eBay first. Good luck earning some snowflakes!
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