Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today

have been stocking up on store items, but also wanted to get some bulk grains, etc. I realized I better experiment with some of this food now, or else I would find myself staring at it not knowing what to do with it.

I hear ya on that. After ordering some bulk pre-packed items, I started to worry if I had all these containers of grains and no idea what to do with it when I really needed them. So, I went ahead and splurged and bought a grain mill and one can of wheat berries (didn't want to open a 6 gallon pail just to try it out!). Granny here helped me with ideas and the bread was to die for! Very wheaty and fresh tasting. Absolutely nothing like anything I've bought in a store. So...now I want to use it all the time. I've been practicing with beans as well, since I've never really cooked them from dry. I learned NOT to cook them too fast, just a slow simmer, or they fall apart.

Share your experiences and any recipes you find you like!

I am thinking it would be good to have some of the bulk items, it would be less tempting for someone to take as they wouldn’t know what to do with it either.

LOL! That crossed my mind as well. Plus, once my year-long supply of grains and beans showed up, I realized someone would have to be very determined, athletic, and well prepared with to take it away.

No, our new ways are not the best ways, not for our bodies, minds or mother nature.

Definitely not. We've have de-evolved to the point of killing ourselves just because it is easier.

I am sure the ten acres are a single parcel. The lot overlooks Pine Flat Lake and has fruit trees on it, and I’m sure there’s a well. Jobs can be hard to come by, though, you’d probably have to work in Fresno, about 35 miles away. Practically every company advertises on Careerbuilder.

I was looking for something for my MIL at Lehman’s the other day. I found some grain mills there and was trying to decide if they were a good deal or not.

http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/search/searchresultsmain.jsp?fresh=1&searchType=advanced&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&attribute14=0&attribute15=0&attribute16=0&RS=1&keyword=grain+mill

I was thinking of a hand crank one. Any opinions?

I am sure the ten acres are a single parcel. The lot overlooks Pine Flat Lake and has fruit trees on it, and I’m sure there’s a well.

Ok, you sold me! How beautiful is that. Are jet skis allowed on the lake? If so, I'm moving!

Well, I have more opinion than actual knowledge. Others here can probably give better advice.;)

For me, having had some upper arm problems and having really weak arms when my tendonitis and nerve problems flare up, I knew I needed a powered one. But, in the event TSHTF, I wanted to have a manual backup so the thing wouldn’t be useless. I opted for the Family Grain Mill - it’s $250 most places, including the hand crank. Which I haven’t tried yet.

Strangely, I found youtube to be a lot of help in picking a mill! There are videos on there showing them operating and some were so loud, I skipped considering those.

The Diamonte one on your link (I may have spelled it wrong) is just beautiful. I can see leaving some of those out all the time, especially in a rustic type kitchen.

BTW, I had to chuckle at your choice of a gift for your MIL. She must be pretty unique!

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Adobe Releases Security Bulletin for Critical Vulnerability

Original release date: February 20, 2009 at 11:20 am
Last revised: February 20, 2009 at 1:51 pm

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Drought may cut off federal water to Calif. farms

Friday, February 20, 2009

San Francisco Chronicle

(02-20) 10:02 PST SACRAMENTO (AP) —

Federal water managers say they may have to cut off all water to some of California’s largest farms as a result of the deepening drought affecting the state.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/02/20/financial/f095156S15.DTL

>>>>I really wish I lived near one of you ladies.<<<<

Dang,

This older than dirt GreatgrandPA has trouble doing a decent curtsy. Will have to get my wife to coach me. LOL

But thanks for the thought.

Thanks for some practical considerations.

I was actually looking at food mills for canning while I had her on the phone. She was looking for one for my SIL and was going to check out some antique/collectible type stores. I mentioned that I thought you could still buy them new and remembered the name Lehman’s for older type equipment. While there, decided to check out the grain mills.

Sorry, GrandPA! I got it now. ;)

(BTW, I thought ‘Dela’ meant a lady’s name...)

Well, guess the 20% in the rural communities that feed all those urban elites and whose innovation has spawned over two centuries of progress in this country, are the second-class citizens now...

Let them eat the sewer rats and cockroaches which are their most abundant food crop!

Do I sound bitter?

Executive Order: ESTABLISHMENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF URBAN AFFAIRS

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By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to take a coordinated and comprehensive approach to developing and implementing an effective strategy concerning urban America, it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1. Policy. About 80 percent of Americans live in urban areas, and the economic health and social vitality of our urban communities are critically important to the prosperity and quality of life for Americans. Vibrant cities spawn innovation, economic growth, and cultural enrichment through the businesses, universities, and civic, cultural, religious, and nonprofit...

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The Active School Shooter has become a common theme in America’s news headlines. Regardless of new tactics and training employed by law enforcement to combat this threat, the actions of the Active School Shooter paralyze communities. From the first documented Active School Shooting incident in the late 1800s, to the most recent event, the community impact of the Active School Shooter is devastating. History has demonstrated that each time an Active School shooting occurs, the casualties increase. These shooters are often novices in the field of combat. Armed with semi automatic weapons and rudimentary explosive devices, their casualties have reached as high as 32 dead and 17 injured in the Virginia Tech massacre. These are America’s children turning on their own hometowns. What is the driving force of this action? Is it the ongoing de-synthesization caused by graphic video games, often referred to as killing simulators? The ever-increasing stress of life? Or the diminishing family unit? Regardless of the cause, these predators are amongst our communities. They target and thrive on the innocent. The comforting confines of our schools have become potential killing fields.

continued....

LOL No problem - people always say Delaware - Oh, that’s somewhere up there in New England isn’t it? So I always tell them nope, it is due East of Disneyland East. (D.C.)

So, I kinda got carried away with it one day and picked DelaWhere for a nick.... G.Grandpa Cal it is though... (grin)

I might add, that you are not the first on here to assume that... Right NW_Arizona_Granny?

I thought keeping it simple like this would be easier - <<<

Simplest way would be to put wife and daughter in field, while you drove the hauler/wagon.

If you want to test your idea to push it with your feet, why not
use scrap lumber, and make a rough shelf if you want to be higher[under the seat, storage for small tools], or a couple scraps that will bring it up to the metal edge of the back, that angle iron, will hurt, throw an old couch cushion on it, or a good pillow, tie it down, [granny would use baling wire] and work using it for a day or two.

If it is what you really want, then you will know exactly what you want to do.

Love the antique steam wagon, you don’t need to dig it down in a trench, you can steer it and the wife and daughter can do the work, hand you the produce.

Corn Smut
Corn smut is a fungal disease that sometimes affects corn ears. Usually, farmers in the United States treat smut like an undesirable disease and make every effort to eradicate it.<<<

And soon we do not have corn for cornmeal and animal feed.

Sorry, smut is something you burn to keep it from spreading.

LOL, but then you knew I wouldn’t like it.

The following is a Jackie Clay video that is from

http://www.BackWoodsHome.com
<<<

My dial up internet, will not do movies, but if it came from the Back Woods Home site, it will be good to watch.

If one reads all the how to raise chickens instructions, then one will find we don’t agree.

If game or banty based chicken is grown and there are big thick trees, they will roost in them.

You watch the hens, they go to the same nest over and over and you can mark an egg and leave it or find egg shaped smooth rocks and put in the nest, and gather the eggs daily.

I had a trio and baby chicks of some Silkies in my greenhouse, they roosted in the grape vines that were attached to the ceiling and laid eggs in one corner.

I have plucked them from trees in the Gila river bottom.

We had a single male peacock, the year we slept out in the patio, in the far corner of the patio roof, there was an open 2 foot square, as Bill never did find a piece to fit it and that was the peacocks roosting spot, he choose it, as it was the highest point on the place.

Beautiful site to see in the morning, with the sun coming up behind him.

You are right, and I don’t handle vit C well as it give me hives.

They said it would be warm here, but it did not do so.

Spring is coming, my Hoya Carnosa plant has a new leaf and they don’t make many.

Yes, some kids love those riddles.

Your daughter is so lucky that you are homeschooling her.

Executive Order: ESTABLISHMENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF URBAN AFFAIRS