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To: grey_whiskers
Why are you (implicitly) subscribing to "separation of Church and State"

Build a wall between Church and State that would make an illegal alien have a heart attack.

Clear enough for ya? ;)

Because the Bible-thumpers would make the wrong choice if left to themselves, so we the educated have to make it for them?

I fully support private and religious schools and homeschooling. The public school, however, must remain neutral.

If so, can you articulate *concisely* why this philosophy is different from the liberals' wish to control?

It isn't about control. It's about government neutrality.

320 posted on 01/28/2009 8:44:07 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: CE2949BB
Build a wall between Church and State that would make an illegal alien have a heart attack.

Why, not how...? And is it a rigid wall or a semi-permeable membrane? Otherwise, you run into the government refusing funding for a crucifix, since it endorses religion, but in the guise of neutrality, funding 'art' of a crucifix in urine or the Virgin Mary in dung.

The very opposite of neutral, another example of government regulations causing the very opposite of what it ostensibly prevents. Shades of St. Paul and "the evil I do not want, that is the very thing I do." Curiouser and curiouser.

Just try *applying* for funding for that kind of art funding for a photo of JFK getting his head blown off put into a jar of urine, or Mohammed covered with animal feces, and count the femtoseconds until a Federal Swat team is at your door...Why is it only explicitly Christian symbols being defiled is called art, but all other subjects make it a Hate Crime?

I fully support private and religious schools and homeschooling. The public school, however, must remain neutral.

Ducking the question -- by phrasing it this way, you are implicitly giving approval to the pervasiveness of government-funded, government controlled schools, with government-approved curricula.

What is so "small government" about that?

Cheers!

334 posted on 01/28/2009 8:58:54 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: CE2949BB; grey_whiskers
While the federal government is prohibited from establishing a state religion, it is prohibited by the Constitution from interfering with the free exercise of religion.

By taking the *no God*, *no religion allowed* position, the government is certainly taking sides; it isNOT being neutral. It's taking the atheistic, God hating liberal side. And those who support that are also positioning themselves in that camp.

There is nothing in the Constitution that gives the federal government the right to control education. Education should be in the hands of the local school boards and taxpayers. If the taxpayers want creation and ID taught in the public schools as creation had been for centuries, as the public has so many times indicated that it does, then the government has no business stepping in and overriding that.

If the atheistic god-hating minority doesn't want to have their children to hear about creation, they can start their own evolution only, no-God-allowed, private schools. They can homeschool. They can have their children opt out of the section in school that deals with creation. They don't have to sue to have it removed from public schools against the wishes of the rest of the parents just because THEY don't want their kids to hear it.

What's the matter? Is the evos faith in their theory so weak that they can't handle having their children hear the creation account as related in the Bible? Are they afraid that if their kids hear it, they'll abandon their belief in evolution and become creationists?

341 posted on 01/28/2009 9:08:03 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: CE2949BB; wintertime; metmom

I fully support private and religious schools and homeschooling. The public school, however, must remain neutral.

It isn’t about control. It’s about government neutrality.


This looks a like a stellar point for a wintertime lecture and an opportunity for you to further your education, that is if wintertime is so inclined to give you her time! (If so, you really should be most grateful!)

What do you think wintertime, is this one worth it? Alot of liberal kool-aid has been ingested!


343 posted on 01/28/2009 9:08:22 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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