Don’t Call it “Darwinism” [religiously defended as "science" by Godless Darwinists]

springerlink ^ | 16 January 2009 | Eugenie C. Scott and Glenn Branch

[Coyoteman]

We will see and hear the term “Darwinism” a lot during 2009, a year during which scientists, teachers, and others who delight in the accomplishments of modern biology will commemorate the 200th anniversary of Darwin’s birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. But what does “Darwinism” mean? And how is it used? At best, the phrase is ambiguous and misleading about science. At worst, its use echoes a creationist strategy to demonize evolution.

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In summary, then, “Darwinism” is an ambiguous term that impairs communication even about Darwin’s own ideas. It fails to convey the full panoply of modern evolutionary biology accurately, and it fosters the inaccurate perception that the field stagnated for 150 years after Darwin’s day. Moreover, creationists use “Darwinism” to frame evolutionary biology as an ism or ideology, and the public understanding of evolution and science suffers as a result. True, in science, we do not shape our research because of what creationists claim about our subject matter. But when we are in the classroom or otherwise dealing with the public understanding of science, it is entirely appropriate to consider whether what we say may be misunderstood. We cannot expect to change preconceptions if we are not willing to avoid exacerbating them. A first step is eschewing the careless use of “Darwinism.”

[metmom]

My only emotional investment comes from constantly being told that I'm a satanist devil-worshipping atheist crypto-liberal bent on destroying Judeo-Christian values and killing unborn babies and anyone else I think is inferior and that I'll end up roasting in hell while the "good Christians" gloat at my suffering.

As opposed to constantly being told that creationists and Christians are anti-science, ignurant, knuckle dragging creatards and IDiots, who are trying to take over the US and drag us back into the dark ages and impose a Talibanesque islamic style theocracy on the world and who will end up burning scientists are the stake.

For the record, the only ones who are telling you that any Christian or creationist will be gloating as you *roasting in hell* is on YOUR side.

Cry me a river.

The world's smallest violin playing *My Heart Bleeds for You*>

[wagglebee]

Do you believe that freedom only comes through Christ?

What do you believe is the source of freedom?

[metmom]

Strawman.....again.....

[Citizen Blade]

I'm not talking about evolutionary scientific theory, I'm talking about Darwinism.

What is Darwinism, exactly, if not evolutionary scientific theory?

[wagglebee]

There ARE scientists who legitimately study the theory of evolution, just as there are economists and political scientists who study the theory of communism. My concern is the twisted atheists who put these theories in action and start killing people in their quest to destroy Judeo-Christian culture.

[Ha Ha Thats Very Logical]

Then why do you support a philosophy which espouses this agenda?

I don't.

[metmom]

Do you believe that freedom only comes through Christ?

Yup, just like the Founding Fathers who wrote.....

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Something a belief in nothing that leads to discrimination and intolerance doesn't allow for.

The Christianity you so scorn is what gave us the government that allows for the freedom that you hold so dear.

[wagglebee]

Darwinism is a political philosophy that seeks the destruction of Judeo-Christian culture, an elite governing class and population control/manipulation through eugenics.

[Ha Ha Thats Very Logical]

I wasn't asking for sympathy.

For the record, the only ones who are telling you that any Christian or creationist will be gloating as you *roasting in hell* is on YOUR side.

You haven't been following this thread very closely, have you?

[tacticalogic]

That's the only conclusion that I could come to.

And as long as a tactic keeps working, it's going to keep getting used.

[wagglebee]

Eugenics and destruction of Christianity are core principles of Darwinism, do you reject these?

[metmom]

Like I said before. Science has been hijacked by the liberal, God-hating likes of the NEA and the ACLU and some people either don’t get it or are intentionally on their side and masquerading as scientists.

Real scientists would do well to speak out against the misuse of science by marxists and atheists instead of defending them.

It would give them some credibility when they claim they are conservatives.

[metmom]

People letting themselves get provoked in order to get banned is a successful tactic. It their goal it to get banned from FR, then I suppose they will keep using it.

[wagglebee]

I agree with you.

Most schools require some core science courses (basic biology, chemistry, etc.), but these are based on proven scientific laws. Evolution however is a mere theory that people want children to accept as fact and the proponents of this are fully aware that full acceptance REQUIRES the rejection of core Judeo-Christian beliefs.

[tacticalogic]

People letting themselves get provoked in order to get banned is a successful tactic. It their goal it to get banned from FR, then I suppose they will keep using it.

Yes, people intentionally let other people piss them off so they'll say something intemperate and get banned all the time. It's so much easier than just not posting in the first place.

[trisham]

I no longer believe they give a damn about the theory of evolution or even science, their emotional investment is in destroying traditional Judeo-Christian culture and replacing it with secularism and also promoting eugenics.

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You may be right. I haven't been on the crevo threads for quite some time, as I found them to be too contentious.

[LeGrande]

For all your blather about freedom, you haven't even adequately defined it. You spout off about freedom to believe as one wishes and yet you don't allow that for those who you disagree with.

Apparently you missed my definition when you asked for it previously

Freedom to be, to do (in an honorable fashion), to believe as one wishes. Is that clear enough?

Obviously, well maybe not obviously to you, freedom should apply to everyone. Freedom for a select few, is not true freedom.

[trisham]

But rather that they are liberals hiding behind the facade of science.

They’re using science to give their agenda some air of respectability. Then when anyone challenges them, they can take the injured tone and be the persecuted martyr, and accuse their opponents of being anti-science, anti-progress, wanting to take us back to the dark ages.

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They do seem to have the classic liberal arrogance and air of superiority about them. It's clear that many of them despise their fellow human beings as well.

[LeGrande]

What do you believe is the source of freedom?

The blood of those who fought for it.

[wagglebee]

Absurd.