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Is there a move for reasonable Republican primaries?

Posted on 01/26/2009 7:13:00 PM PST by HogsBreath

Why would the Republican party weed out it's primary candidates in states that are going to vote Democrat? Iowa (Obama +15%) New Hampshire (Obama +10%) Shouldn't the Republican candidates be competing in Florida, Ohio, Indiana...as the primaries that will show us who should be the candidate?


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KEYWORDS: conservatism; elections; president; primaries; primary; rinopurge; rnc
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1 posted on 01/26/2009 7:13:00 PM PST by HogsBreath
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To: HogsBreath

Agreed. Primaries are an odd thing. I don’t like the winner take all nor do I like any where you can’t vote in them unless you are registered in that party. They should also be over a period of time so you can get a real feel for people though no more than 2 months.

No system is perfect but the one we have now is broken for sure.


2 posted on 01/26/2009 7:16:03 PM PST by karibdes (It's not a perfect world. Screws fall out.)
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To: HogsBreath

I wish the primaries were much closer together. By the time it was my state’s turn to vote, it was all over. Have them in a week and don’t declare a winner until the last vote is counted.


3 posted on 01/26/2009 7:19:09 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps
I couldn't agree more. Every Republican needs to believe his or her choice matters.
Additionally, having them all at the same time would make the MSM insane which I would enjoy almost as much as voting.
4 posted on 01/26/2009 7:22:07 PM PST by dianed
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To: HogsBreath

Do them democrats vote in republican primaries in the states you list? Basically it should republicans voting in their primary unless it is an open situation.


5 posted on 01/26/2009 7:22:57 PM PST by deport
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To: deport

In New Hampshire you do not even have to physically live in the state, all you have to do to register to vote on election day is say you PLAN to move there and so you want to vote there and they allow it... this was likely one reason Hillary did so well in NH, there was reports of a whole lot of MA license plates in the parking lots on primary day.


6 posted on 01/26/2009 7:25:58 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: HogsBreath

Forget it. The media determines these matters, to hell with the People who are such dumbasses that they allow these creeps control.


7 posted on 01/26/2009 7:28:53 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: HogsBreath

In order for the Republicans to win in 2012, New Hampshire and Iowa would have to be in play.

But there definitely has to be rule changes next time out for the Republicans to stand a chance- regardless of which states lead off in the selection process.

In 2012, the Democrat nominee is already decided. The crossover factor is more than likely to lead to another Republican liberal or “moderate” candidate and another defeat. In other words, McCain will probably be renominated.


8 posted on 01/26/2009 7:29:13 PM PST by I_Like_Spam
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To: karibdes; HogsBreath
Agreed. Primaries are an odd thing. I don’t like the winner take all nor do I like any where you can’t vote in them unless you are registered in that party...

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Strongly disagree. The Republican nominee should be selected only by Republicans--especially in 2012. President 0 will likely run unopposed, leaving DemonRat voters free to "cross over" and vote for a RINO or other weak Republican. Crossover voters gave us McCain.

The RNC should only seat 2012 delegates from states with "closed" Republican primaries. This gives us the best chance at fielding a strong--or at least viable--candidate.

9 posted on 01/26/2009 7:48:21 PM PST by stillonaroll (Nominate a non-RINO in 2012!)
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To: I_Like_Spam
In 2012, the Democrat nominee is already decided. The crossover factor is more than likely to lead to another Republican liberal or “moderate” candidate and another defeat. In other words, McCain will probably be renominated.

ACK! Your last sentence actually made me gasp out loud.

LOL, that's like a really twisted, ghastly version of Groundhog Day, isn't it?

The only thing that'll save us from that nightmare scenario is that by then he'll be too old & tired & confused & he won't have the fire in his belly to do what it takes to win.

Oh, wait....

10 posted on 01/26/2009 8:06:08 PM PST by leilani
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To: HogsBreath

Personally, I think the primary system ought to be scrapped completely. Let each county party in every state decided it’s choice of candidate (proportional to number of registered Republicans in the county), and the aggregate results decide the nominee. And this all goes on in a single day.

Barring this, I say close the primaries to Republicans only. NOBODY WHO IS NOT A REPUBLICAN should have a say in deciding the GOP candidate. NOBODY. And again, have the elections be held on the same day, nationwide. Any state party that doesn’t get on board with that has its delegates decertified.


11 posted on 01/26/2009 8:44:11 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: HogsBreath

Something definitely needs to change with how we do our primaries. I am in Ohio and by the time we had our primary, McCain was pretty much the only candidate. Everyone else had either dropped out or announced they were dropping out after our primary. There were still several primaries later than ours. All states need to be given equal opportunity to vote for all the contenders in the race.


12 posted on 01/26/2009 8:52:08 PM PST by Jen4life
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To: Arizona Carolyn

this was likely one reason Hillary did so well in NH,


Again does that impact the Republican Primary, the topic of this thread? I just don’t see people crossing over that much to vote republican, but then maybe they do.


13 posted on 01/27/2009 4:16:08 AM PST by deport
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To: stillonaroll
Strongly disagree. The Republican nominee should be selected only by Republicans--especially in 2012. President 0 will likely run unopposed, leaving DemonRat voters free to "cross over" and vote for a RINO or other weak Republican. Crossover voters gave us McCain.

Well put. That exact sentiment is why I started this thread.

14 posted on 01/27/2009 4:36:20 AM PST by HogsBreath
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To: stillonaroll

yeah. That’s what I meant. Perhaps I stated it poorly. Only Republicans should vote in Republican primaries. That’s why I said you can’t vote in them unless you are registered in that party.

We’re on the same page. =)


15 posted on 01/27/2009 7:59:50 AM PST by karibdes (It's not a perfect world. Screws fall out.)
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To: HogsBreath
Open primaries are a party building tool. They work in that regard when a party is in ascendency. Take, for example South Carolina. Reliably a blue state through 1960. Trended Republican 'till '76 when it went blue again. They opened the primary in '80 for Reagan. Now it is a solid red. The open primary allowed people who distrusted Republicans to vote for a man that they trusted, Reagan.

That's not to say that the primary system doesn't need major reform. It does and it is coming. Just realize that whatever we do has long term ramifications. Closed primaries also close some doors.

16 posted on 01/27/2009 8:20:40 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: HogsBreath
I'm not a fan of having all of the primaries on the same day because it would mean the candidates would only concentrate on the bigger states.

My idea is to change the order of the primaries every 2 years. The order would be based on the outcome of the previous presidential election. The state where the Republican got the greatest percentage of the vote would go first followed by the others in order.

This way the most conservative states would have a chance to give thier preferred candidate a leg up on the others.

Closed primaries are a necessity.

17 posted on 01/27/2009 10:13:45 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: deport
Yes. I'm surprised you don't see how. Whoever won NH had a slingshot going into South Carolina. and when the same person came out of SC a winner, the die was cast in Florida and from there it was just running the numbers, McCain had it in the bag... we are a country of sheep. The sheep like to be able to say they were on the winning team -- in this case voted for the winner.... the media played McCain as the best and strongest candidate coming out of his NH win and all you had to do was look at the polls immediately following his win there vs before to see the media and the sheeple effect.

If NH had been a GOP-only primary I strongly doubt the winner would have been John McCain and, as a result, I doubt he would have won the nomination.

18 posted on 01/27/2009 11:10:37 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

If NH had been a GOP-only primary I strongly doubt the winner would have been John McCain and, as a result, I doubt he would have won the nomination.


McCain had the organization, put the hours in NH that others didn’t, and I doubt the winner would have been any different if it had been a closed primary.


19 posted on 01/27/2009 12:11:58 PM PST by deport
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Closed primaries will not work.

Democrats will just switch parties, vote for a Republican in the 2012 primaries and vote for Obama in November 2012.

It is legal to switch parties.

It is legal to vote for anyone you want in November.

Until those 2 things change, there is nothing we can do to stop Democrats from voting in Republican primaries.

20 posted on 07/10/2009 8:16:58 AM PDT by walsh
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