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A slice of nostalgia for sale: At diner, time for the next course
star ledger ^ | 09.09.08 | Mark Di Ionno

Posted on 01/12/2009 8:54:12 PM PST by Coleus

Tums and Pepcid AC commercials were shot there. Noxema and Bank of America, too. So was part of Ang Lee's film "Ice Storm." Nickelodeon and TV Land have been there. The diner is a must-stop for location scouts who want an all-American (circa 1950s) small-town atmosphere, and artist John Baeder painted it lifelike, with a red Jeep Wagoneer and a vintage sky-blue Caddy parked outside, a full mast Stars & Stripes flapping above.

Among diner aficionados, the Harris remains a stainless steel fixture. It is on every diner-nut tour, like Diner-rama, and every list of must-sees by diner societies and clubs worldwide. It made USA Today's 50 Great Plates of America, and is a perennial favorite of The Star-Ledger's Munchmobile. Since 1951, it has stood at the corner of Washington Street and North Park Place in East Orange, a shining example, literally, of America's post-war, drive-up culture of chrome, fins and good times.

After good times became tough times, the Harris stayed, 24 hours a day, for decades. It became a time capsule, a slice of coconut custard American nostalgia. It was also a pretty good place to eat. "Fifty years is enough, don't you think?" said Bill Nicholas. Those are the 50 years Nicholas has owned it with the other Bill, his brother-in-law, Bill Marmaras. The two Bills married the daughters of Thomas Karayianis, the owner after Charles Harris.

Mary Karayianis was a cashier and Bill Nicholas was a cook when they met there in 1955, back in the days when the 125-seat diner could keep 15 waitresses hopping. Sunday night, at dinner time, Bill Marmaras was alone with one waitress and six customers at the counter. The booths, with their turquoise benches and flip-card jukeboxes, were empty.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.nj.com ...


TOPICS: Food; History; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: diners; nj; njdiners
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1 posted on 01/12/2009 8:54:13 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus
Diner
2 posted on 01/12/2009 9:15:43 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac
Love those old diners


3 posted on 01/12/2009 10:37:16 PM PST by JoeProBono (Apparitions are in the eye of the beholder)
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To: Coleus

:’)

http://www.rosiesdiner.com/


4 posted on 01/14/2009 5:44:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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5 posted on 01/22/2009 8:57:03 PM PST by devolve ( ____ I told you to slow down Elvis! ____)
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Love it! Here's the Marilyn gif you gave me long ago! Enjoy devolve!

 


6 posted on 01/22/2009 9:40:20 PM PST by potlatch
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To: Coleus
Amazing the Diner stayed in business as long as it did. With East Orange steadily going to hell from around 1967 on, they must have truly believed in the community.
7 posted on 01/22/2009 9:45:39 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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LOL!

Thanks potlatch!

They have updated the "Big Boy" figures they now use - the one I posted was a bit Asian influenced by the artist - the eyebrows and eyes are now 100% USA and he has black shoes -

The Bob*s Big Boy bank is about 8-1/2" tall by 5" wide and perfect for 1:18 dioramas of classic 50s & 60s cars, hotrods, customs

The red Corvette in your graphic is either a 1958 with fake hood louvers and 2 chrome "bull*s horn" trim pieces running down the trunk - or the 1959 red Vette without the fakeroo hood louvers and truck chrome - which was first seen on "Route 66" on TV - each year Chevrolet provided a new red Corvette for the TV show -

- Al Kohler (of toilet fame) bought the first red 1958 Vette they received at Slaton Chevrolet in Fort Lauderdale (on the North Federal Highway - East side) while World Heavyweight Champion Ingamar Johannson sputtered and complained "Don*t you know who I am?"

The other car appears to be a black Ford Model B "Deuce Coupe" - a "Highboy" (not lowered or channeled over the frame) - Possible a 1929-1931 Model A body on a 1932 frame -

A yellow Ford "Deuce Coupe" Highboy was used in "American Graffiti" and The Beach Boys wrote and performed this song:



Little Deuce Coupe


Most had Chevy small block V8 engines swapped in as the Ford V8s have the oil pickup at front of the engine and the oilpan interferes with the frame and steering

Chevy engines were also plentiful (cheap as dirt in boneyards) and easy to rebuild and modify/soup-up with either/or optional Corvette factory racing parts (cheap then!) or aftermarket parts from Edelbrock, Crane, Weiand, Offenhauser, etc -


8 posted on 01/22/2009 10:31:31 PM PST by devolve ( ____ I told you to slow down Elvis! ____)
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Good post! And thank you for the auto rundown, lol.


9 posted on 01/23/2009 2:58:58 PM PST by potlatch
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Thanks potlatch!

Just had to swap 4 new AAs into my keyboard -

Many old Ford purists would have rather swapped in the new thinwall lightweight smallblock Ford V8 of 221, 260, 289, 302, 351 cubic inches - but Chevy’s smallblock V8 that came out in 1955 was more practical and available and easier to drop in

The older Ford Roadsters usually had updated or modified Ford flathead V8s - in the early 50s when Caddy and Dr. Oldsmobile came out with overhead valve head V8s that kicked out good power - may hotrodders used those out of wrecks in their local boneyard

I swapped the Bob’s Big Boy graphic for the latest version - a slight watermark shows there - but it is not the one with the discarded Asian facial features

Marilyn Monroe is up on the roof of the burger drive-in now

Cannot seem to find a sample of the round “Bob’s Big Boy” round sign that you posted anywhere

Just finished my own fried onions, tomato, mayo, mustard, ketchup Angus Bubba Burger, hold the cheese - cause I’m out!


10 posted on 01/23/2009 5:39:02 PM PST by devolve ( ____ I told you to slow down Elvis! ____)
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Hi, 9pm and you are eating dinner.

[Marilyn Monroe is up on the roof of the burger drive-in now]

I don’t see Marilyn here, even refreshed, maybe you meant on your webpage?

I found this on a Google image search;
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/ariesgirl326/full_T09.gif

I am hardly able to get around here today, keep getting Proxy errors. I went to every other forum that ‘hosts’ Freepers and only saw one comment.

Did have two replies on the Yahoo site.

I’m at my wits end here.


11 posted on 01/23/2009 5:51:24 PM PST by potlatch
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This post: (MM)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2163597/posts?page=5#5

I’m doing OK on FR tonight - so far

The “PROXY” errors ?? Photobucket ??

Incompatibility ??

Something new or hacked on FR software now?

My WebTV Plus/MSN is immune to most bugs - except I sometimes have a freeze-up when I try to type on “Post Preview” - I can “Paste” in text or tags - but I cannot simply type in the window then - then I have to shut down my WebTV receiver’s power, run 2 short codes on my keyboard, power back up

Then I can type in “Post Preview” again


12 posted on 01/23/2009 6:23:00 PM PST by devolve ( ____ I told you to slow down Elvis! ____)
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Yes, I had seen your MM on post 5. You had mentioned her being on top of the diner and that’s what I was looking for here.

You explained in FR about that.

I have no trouble at Photobucket, why would you think that?

Don’t know why I’m having trouble here when I can get to other sites fine??

I had two Proxy errors and it took several minutes to finally get here.


13 posted on 01/23/2009 6:33:57 PM PST by potlatch
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It is taking a bit longer than usual to connect on FR tonight

It’s difficult for me understand exactly what you are experiencing with the “PROXY” errors - I’m trying!


14 posted on 01/23/2009 6:49:46 PM PST by devolve ( ____ I told you to slow down Elvis! ____)
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I know, you would have to do a Google on Proxy errors.


15 posted on 01/23/2009 9:23:50 PM PST by potlatch
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On a lighter note:

Frischs-Big-Boy-633x936.jpg

16 posted on 01/23/2009 10:07:14 PM PST by devolve ( ____ I told you to slow down Elvis! ____)
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Lol, that is one Biiiiiiigggg Big Boy!!
I’ll have to cut him out and make him smaller - when I get to it.

Cute graphic.


17 posted on 01/25/2009 12:13:36 PM PST by potlatch
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18 posted on 02/04/2012 2:33:42 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - GO GATORS! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

One of our favorite ‘oldie’ cars!! So pretty, and you found a wonderful old thread. I see the Marilyn gif up above.
Thanks devolve, brought back memories!


19 posted on 02/04/2012 3:20:47 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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The original story is three years old. I wonder how it turned out ?


20 posted on 02/04/2012 3:33:43 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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