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To: Swordmaker

I find it funny that you are defending Apple - a premium brand - by comparing it commodity computers. It sort of appears that they aren’t a premium brand - that their hardware is no different than all the other major computer brands.

You leave out a major issue with apple and the enterprise - that little issue of them not having a true server class operating system or any server class hardware.


58 posted on 01/09/2009 5:11:53 PM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet; antiRepublicrat
I find it funny that you are defending Apple - a premium brand - by comparing it commodity computers. It sort of appears that they aren’t a premium brand - that their hardware is no different than all the other major computer brands.

No, I have compared Apple's computers to Dell, HP, and Compaq mid-range to high end, premium computers, configured to match the hardware used by Apple, not to the commodity computers. I don't bother looking at their low end, bargain basement computers. When you compare like for like hardware, the Apple is always competitive in price and often less expensive than the offerings from those companies. In the Workstation class machines—those with Xeon® grade processors—the default configuration Apple Mac Pro is hundreds of dollars less expensive than equivalent Dell and HP machines.

You leave out a major issue with apple and the enterprise - that little issue of them not having a true server class operating system or any server class hardware.

Sorry, you really don't know what you are talking about. YOU are making claims that are simply not true. First of all, Apple Mac OSX is a fully certified, POSIX compliant UNIX™ with all of the server class software that implies... as well as offering xServe and OSX Server which is fully functional Server Operating System. UNIX powers some of the most largest and most secure networks in the world, and currently there are only four certified UNIXs to do that and Apple is one of them.

As to finding Macs in the offices of large enterprises, more and more of them are being installed. They are even being used in major database and server capacities. This xServe array is installed at eBureau, one of the largest credit card clearing companies in America:

Among businesses that are using Macs in the enterprise are:

The cost per seat licensing to use OSX Server is far less than the cost per seat licensing for Windows' server software which is far more buggy.
60 posted on 01/09/2009 7:04:24 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: DevNet
I find it funny that you are defending Apple - a premium brand - by comparing it commodity computers. It sort of appears that they aren’t a premium brand - that their hardware is no different than all the other major computer brands.

I'm still waiting for the list of notebook/laptop manufacturers that offer a standard 3 year warranty on their top-of-the-line mobile computer. Since you have not been forthcoming, I did some research:

Only Apple's warranty covers the whole widget. That says they have confidence in their entire product.

Do you know of any notebook/laptops with a standard 3 year warranty? Or were you just throwing anti-Apple attacks against the wall to see what might stick?

78 posted on 01/10/2009 7:22:27 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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