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To: Political Junkie Too

You asked — “So you’re arguing FOR more scrutiny before it’s too late?”

I don’t know how much more scrutiny can be given to this, considering all that I’ve seen so far. It would be hard to exceed what has been done already in “scrutiny”.

The point is that our Constitution is still intact, because Arthur did not “flout” the fact that he was foreign born, but said that he was natural born. So, he was *stating* that he followed the Constitution. The problem was (back then, as it is today) that no one could *prove it*.

And so, when we look to history — do we see that all these *problems* (which posters say will happen with a foreign born President) — did they happen with Arthur?

I’m wondering what happen to that Constitutional provision for Natural Born in the Constitution — after — Arthur was President? Was it trashed?

Also, what happened to Arthur’s legislation? Was it all invalid? Also, did foreign government blackmail him?

That’s the idea — to get an idea of what people are “in store for” by looking at history and seeing what happened in the past — with the very same thing...


826 posted on 01/02/2009 7:30:58 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Yet for what you are saying to be true then everything would also have to go *exactly* the same way this time around.

How many cases were before the Supreme Court in regards to Arthur?


831 posted on 01/02/2009 7:32:50 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: Star Traveler
I don’t know how much more scrutiny can be given to this, considering all that I’ve seen so far. It would be hard to exceed what has been done already in “scrutiny”. How bout the SOB shows the vault copy and stops hiding it? He was in HA, the knows there are cases before the Supremes, what is he hiding? Gotta be somethin’
834 posted on 01/02/2009 7:33:30 PM PST by mojitojoe
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To: Star Traveler
And so, when we look to history — do we see that all these *problems* (which posters say will happen with a foreign born President) — did they happen with Arthur? I’m wondering what happen to that Constitutional provision for Natural Born in the Constitution — after — Arthur was President? Was it trashed?

The People didn't vote for Arthur -- they voted for Garfield.

When Arthur ran on his on right, he didn't even win the primary. That should answer your questions.

-PJ

877 posted on 01/02/2009 7:46:44 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Star Traveler
I don’t know how much more scrutiny can be given to this, considering all that I’ve seen so far

Just one little thing, for a certified copy of the Original Birth Certificate, that the state of Hawaii says they have, to be provided directly to one, just one, of the Courts which have active cases seeking it's production. That would either make the issue go away, or blow it wide open.

BHO has not seen fit to request such a BC be provided. Why has he not done so? And instead sent lawyers to argue against "standing" and any requirement to provide the BC. However much they might have cost him it would be much much more than it would cost ($12 if done over the 'net) to have one provided to such a court directly from the State of Hawaii's Department of Health Statistics.

1,088 posted on 01/02/2009 10:01:04 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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