Posted on 01/02/2009 1:16:10 PM PST by patriot08
Ed Hale of Plains Radio has secured a copy of the Dunham/Obama divorce decree as promised. He has registered this at the courthouse and has turned the document over to lawyers who are reported to be happy and enthused over the contents.
This is the first page. This is all that can be divulged at this time as those who have seen the decree are sworn to silence. You may hear information about it tonight on Ed's plainsradio show.
Thanks seekthetruth, much appreciated! It is awesome,I will get into it later.
Reposting excerpt from Dr. Edwin Vieira’s piece, “In the Shadow of the Nemesis”
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Moreover, Congress cannot perform a simulacrum of this procedure by “remov[ing Obama] from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” [Article II, Section IV] For, if he is not “eligible to the Office of President” at all, then Obama is not “the President,” and therefore cannot be removed from an office that he does not, and cannot, even occupy—and has never occupied.
In addition, even if “Impeachment” of a plain usurper were constitutionally possible, Congress could not “waive” its duty in that regard, do nothing, and collude with the pretender in order to enable him to continue his imposture indefinitely.
Seventh, the defendant in this hypothetical criminal prosecution can invoke the Sixth Amendment:
namely, “In all criminal prosecutions the accused shall enjoy the right * * * to have compulsory process for obtaining Witnesses in his favor * * * .”
Presumably, a properly represented defendant would subpoena Obama himself as the indispensable witness, requiring him to bring into court whatever records were in his possession or subject to his control that in any way evidenced, related to, or referred to the time, place, and circumstances of his birth, or to his citizenship, application for citizenship, renunciation of citizenship, or oath of allegiance in or to any country.
This would include the original of his supposed Hawaiian birth certificate; every subsequent Hawaiian “certification of live birth” or like document created by public authorities; every other “birth certificate” or equivalent document whenever, wherever, and by whomever generated in the name of “Barack Obama” or any of his several other names; every document submitted to an educational institution that contained information or representations concerning his place of birth or citizenship; and so on.
In the interest of expediting the process, the custodians of records in Hawaii would also be subpoenaed to testify and to produce all relevant documents subject to their control.
To be sure, Obama himself might invoke a privilege against self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment as the grounds for refusing to testify or to disgorge inculpatory papers.
But custodians of public records in Hawaii or elsewhere throughout the United States have no such privilege. And no Hawaiian or other law of the States or the General Government purporting to make those records “confidential” can frustrate the Sixth Amendment.
So much for the legalities of the situation.
Personally, I find this whole controversy—although it is of great constitutional significance—to be a monumental distraction from what is desperately needed for this country’s security.
The problems now confronting America cannot be solved simply by ensconcing in the President’s chair one charismatic “Leader” as opposed to another—be he Barack Obama or the Archangel Michael (neither of whom, absent a proper birth certificate, is “eligible to the Office of President”).
For the Leader Principle at the very top demands the Follower Principle all the way down to the bottom. And both are anathema and inimical to the Constitution of the United States—especially the latter, because a nation of self-governing individuals cannot be a nation of blind, bleating followers.
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Edwin Vieira, Jr., holds four degrees from Harvard: A.B. (Harvard College), A.M. and Ph.D. (Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences), and J.D. (Harvard Law School).
For more than thirty years he has practiced law, with emphasis on constitutional issues.
In the Supreme Court of the United States he successfully argued or briefed the cases leading to the landmark decisions Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, Chicago Teachers Union v. Hudson, and Communications Workers of America v. Beck, which established constitutional and statutory limitations on the uses to which labor unions, in both the private and the public sectors, may apply fees extracted from nonunion workers as a condition of their employment.
He has written numerous monographs and articles in scholarly journals, and lectured throughout the county. His most recent work on money and banking is the two-volume Pieces of Eight: The Monetary Powers and Disabilities of the United States Constitution (2002), the most comprehensive study in existence of American monetary law and history viewed from a constitutional perspective. http://www.piecesofeight.us
http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin186.htm
Just too good!!!
“Who sent you?”
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CHICAGO A NEWCOMER TO THE BUSINESS OF POLITICS HAS SEEN ENOUGH TO REACH SOMECONCLUSIONS ABOUT RESTORING VOTERS’ TRUST.
Plain Dealer, The (Cleveland, OH) - Saturday, August 3, 1996
Author: JOE FROLIK NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT
EXCERPT
Before entering the race, Obama said, he spoke to about 30 elected officials in the district, which includes the integrated, middle class neighborhood around the University of Chicago as well as some of the city’s poorest precincts.
“Not one asked me where I stood on an issue,” he says, smiling.
“What they cared about was, `Who sent you? How much money you got?’
His answers were apparently good enough; the party backed his nomination. And given the district, Obama ‘s March primary win makes Nov. 5 simply a formality.
But despite the ease of his ascension, the nature of campaigning worries him. Sound bites sow distrust, he says: “They’re dishonest about how complex some of the issues are. They’re dishonest about the very real conflicts between groups that are going to have to be resolved through compromise.”
And then there’s money. Chicagoans, he says, have grown especially jaded watching the Democrats raise cash for this month’s national convention in Chicago.
“The convention’s for sale, right,” Obama says.
“You got these $10,000-a-plate dinners and Golden Circles Clubs. I think when the average voter looks at that, they rightly feel they’re locked out of the process. They can’t attend a $10,000 breakfast and they know that those who can are going to get the kind of access they can’t imagine.”
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“The tool of forces outside the black community.”
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Chicago Sun-Times - Monday, February 12, 1996
Author: Salim Muwakkil
Barack Obama , the leading (and perhaps only) Democratic candidate seeking to succeed Sen. Alice Palmer in the state’s 13th District, is one of the brightest political prospects . . . well, since Rhodes scholar Mel Reynolds.
That comparison is not intentionally invidious, just a reminder of how impressive credentials sometimes exempt political candidates from proper scrutiny. And although Obama ‘s credentials are quite impressive, his critics s insist that all isn’t what it seems.
Adolph Reed Jr., a progressive Northwestern University professor of political science, condemns Obama as a politician with “impeccable do-good credentials and vacuous-to-repressive neoliberal politics.” Robert T. Starks, another academic-activist who serves as chairman of the Task Force for Black Political Empowerment, says Obama is the tool of forces outside the black community.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2162625/posts
Sacre Bleu! Le Monde Publishes Never-Before-Seen 1996 Interview With Obamas About Their Marriage
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Describing his father, Mr. Obama said “he studied economy in the United States, at the University of Hawaii and at Harvard. He wanted to contribute to development of Kenya but in the end, he was disappointed, he found himself implicated in political rivalries and the government blacklisted him because he’d protested against nepotism and tribalism. He had a bitter life and died young. Michelle’s father also had to overcome challenges and was stricken by multiple sclerosis. He too died young, but I think he had a steadier and more established life.”
Speaking of his mother’s death just months before, Mr. Obama says, “she was only 53 years old. And when you have a small family, where every relative is very close to you…it was a difficult time for me. I have a sister on my mother’s side, she is half Indonesian like my mother’s second husband, and I also have brothers and sisters on the Kenyan side. They are very scattered, some live in Germany, others in Kenya, some here in the U.S.”
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2162625/posts
“It’s not every day that a girl from the South Side of Chicago meets someone who speaks Indonesian, who has traveled and has seen many fascinating things,” she says.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/07/11/politics/fromtheroad/entry4254480.shtml
Obama: “I don’t speak a foreign language. It’s embarrassing!”
Great stuff Star!
Word from plainsradio.com chat roo:
Obama passport from 1991 obtained.
Something important announced tonight at 8PM CST.
should be CHAT ROOM
Correction: should be 6PM CST
Chat room says big new...he won’t get into the White House.
Thanks for the heads up! I sure hope someone can keep us “earless” folk up to date on what is happening!
You mean 1981, don’t you?
Beckwith, they are saying 1991.
Chat room on plains radio is saying they are going to be monitored by MSM on be on TV tonight. (???)
We don’t get the alphabet channels here as the mountains are in the way of receiving any signal. I do wonder if this story has been monitored by the msm as the scandal that would make their day? There have been rumors that even the msm knew he wasn’t eligible but have sat on the story thinking that the discovery of that would result in headlines for many a month. Who knows?
Is there thread for this episode of plainsradio?
Dr. Keyes is on plainsradio.
Very articulate, intelligent man.
People who have remarked that Alan Keyes is a wacko is plain insane.
This man is more articulate than Obama ever thought about being!
Please give us a play by play.
Fiddlesticks! We need to see the WHOLE document. I’m sure there are freeper lawyers.
I still don’t understand how the Soetoro divorce papers don’t hold more weight since they state that the couple has 1 child under 18 and 1 child over 18.
That would indicate an adoption, no?
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