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To: betty boop
You nail it, metmom! Well said indeed!!!

No, because we haven't defined gravity as a distinguishing property of God, but we have defined it as one of matter. If you want to describe God as having gravity, fine. I suggest that that would make God part of the materialistic universe, but since God can be anything, including internally inconsistent, I will defer to your judgement.

137 posted on 12/09/2008 3:07:36 PM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: Soliton; metmom; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; svcw
If you want to describe God as having gravity, fine. I suggest that that would make God part of the materialistic universe, but since God can be anything, including internally inconsistent, I will defer to your judgement.

As far as I can tell, Spirit has no matter thus no gravity. While no one can exhaustively "define God," the common, enduring insight of Israel, classical philosophy, and Christianity is that God cannot be internally inconsistent with himself, and that he does not lie. The order of the natural world and the moral world of men absolutely depends on these insights being true. Moreoever, this understanding is foundational in the Western and specifically American cultural tradition. Indeed, the American idea of "rule of law, not rule by men" is premised in this understanding.

140 posted on 12/09/2008 3:31:27 PM PST by betty boop
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To: Soliton; betty boop
Your post 35 only says,.....Recently it has been suggested that we have detected gravitational effects FROM OUTSIDE THE BOUNDaRY OF OUR UNIVERSE

*suggested* only. Not determined, not a fact.

If you want to grasp at that in a desperate attempt to nullify God, you are certainly entitled.

It certainly gives new meaning to *grasping at straws*.

141 posted on 12/09/2008 3:35:17 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Soliton; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[ No, because we haven't defined gravity as a distinguishing property of God, but we have defined it as one of matter. ]

According to anything I can find no one has the slightest idea of what matter is.. There is a lot if if'n.. but nothing concrete.. "Strings" are a metaphorical image not something actually thingly..

148 posted on 12/09/2008 5:36:08 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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