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To: Soliton; Alamo-Girl; svcw; hosepipe; metmom
"If you discovered a really impressive fine-tuning ... I think you'd really be left with only two explanations: a benevolent designer or a multiverse."

Well of course you would Soliton! But note well: Neither the benevolent designer nor the multiverse is an observable datum, and thus neither is susceptible to test and falsification by means of the scientific method. Steven Weinberg is "philosophizing" here; and so are you!

116 posted on 12/09/2008 10:07:01 AM PST by betty boop
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To: betty boop
Indeed. Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!
117 posted on 12/09/2008 10:09:35 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
You guys (generic guy) are so eloquent. Thanks.
I am more the sarcastic type.
118 posted on 12/09/2008 10:23:39 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of Christmas gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: betty boop
Neither the benevolent designer nor the multiverse is an observable datum

Certtain aspects of the observable universe suggest that large objects are being affected by gravitaional effects outside our universe. Maybe we will have to redifine universe.

120 posted on 12/09/2008 10:27:36 AM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: betty boop

It seems that there is also substantially more evidence for the benevolent creator than the multiverse.

The multiverse has merely some suspected aberrations in gravitational forces suggesting gravitational effects from outside the universe.

God has left a written record, miracles occur, human hearts are changed instantly upon establishing a personal relationship with the Designer.


126 posted on 12/09/2008 11:40:29 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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