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SCOTUS Re: Obama....Live Thread

Posted on 12/05/2008 6:33:15 AM PST by maineman

I thought we should have a link to post any and all updates.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho; birth; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; donofrio; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; obamatruthsquad; odinga; scotus
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To: jcsjcm
I believe you might be mistaken. Berg’s case was denied, I’m pretty sure. However, Justice Souter did issue some sort of request for Obama and the DNC to produce the documents named by Monday (birth certificate and several other things). It is not clear whether Obama and the DNC ignored or complied with this request.

Got a link for that? Preferably Souter's written request. Otherwise, I think it's yet another internet rumour !

441 posted on 12/05/2008 11:17:55 AM PST by Jack Black (ping can't be a tag line, can it?)
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To: couchpotatoxxx12

That was fast.


442 posted on 12/05/2008 11:18:04 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: BP2

Thank you!


443 posted on 12/05/2008 11:18:11 AM PST by maineman (If McCain had half of my passion...we'd have won.)
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To: BP2

“NOTE: That link is to a BLOG. It is NOT the SCOTUS’s website. That BLOG has had NO mention of the Donofrio case this ENTIRE time. The orders won’t be published until AFTER 4 pm EST today. “

Geez, just when the “dress rehearsal” for a let down was getting into full gear!


444 posted on 12/05/2008 11:18:35 AM PST by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: BP2

Thanks for the clarification.


445 posted on 12/05/2008 11:19:05 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Sola Veritas

Why doesn’t every citizen have standing to ask this question and get a straight answer?

This deeply depresses me. Not that Mr. Obama hasn’t been tossed, but that question is left unanswered.
***Same here.


446 posted on 12/05/2008 11:19:19 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: couchpotatoxxx12

just dang


447 posted on 12/05/2008 11:19:40 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: BP2

The orders are published here:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/120508zr.pdf

Note that there are only two of them. All other petitions were denied. If you wish to see the official posting of the denial, it should be there by Monday.


448 posted on 12/05/2008 11:19:53 AM PST by flyfree
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To: Sloth

Then explain why Obama doesn’t produce his Birth Certificate.


449 posted on 12/05/2008 11:20:01 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: FMBass

LOL..I’m glad I waited, I was just about to xncl my cable.


450 posted on 12/05/2008 11:20:03 AM PST by maineman (If McCain had half of my passion...we'd have won.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

I didn’t check the date on You Tube but it has been posted on FR before the Election.


451 posted on 12/05/2008 11:21:15 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Jack Black

It might be an official internet rumor however


452 posted on 12/05/2008 11:21:20 AM PST by woofie
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To: Godsgirl
Gee that's a confusing post!

So far what happened at SCOTUS on this case is nothing. Nothing to report. Some say that it is usual for the court to issue the list of rejected cases on Monday. Until then we wait. The absence of the case Donofrio from the list of cases accepted does not always mean that it is rejected.

453 posted on 12/05/2008 11:21:56 AM PST by bvw
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To: jcsjcm

OK, I see. What about the documents, thought? How could Obama/DNC refuse to comply with a Supreme Court Justice’s request? Or maybe they did, and that “vault” BC is in the meeting with them right now?


454 posted on 12/05/2008 11:22:48 AM PST by baa39 (www.FightFOCA.com - innocent lives depend on you)
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To: BP2; All

BP2,

Thank you sir. Earlier this week you suggested that a group of commissioned military officer should bring suit. I’m thinking you are right....this is the only way.

I’ve been both enlisted and a commissioned officer in the U.S. military. My enlisted oath said “obey the president and officers appointed over me”. However, my oath as a commissioned officer ONLY said to “support and defend the constitution.” With that specific charge/commission it would seem that currently commissioned officers should be able to file suit to say that there is doubt, regardless of how trivia it may be perceived by some, that President Elect Obama may not meet the qualifications to be POTUS. As such, all commissioned officers of the military should have standing to respectfully demand Mr. Obama to definitively put to rest any doubts, and if he won’t then the SCOTUS should compel him to do so. Otherwise, those commissioned officers have not “supported and defended the constitution.”

What say others here?


455 posted on 12/05/2008 11:24:59 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Kevmo; Polarik
You, however, have just delivered false accusations about a fellow freeper and you’ve made several logical fallacies in your libelous statements.

Would you care to amend this. I am saying Polarik prove who he is and his status as an expert. The other statements are "If" statements. "If" he is not an expert as he claims, then he could produce a thousand page document but all the conclusions will be in question. You came to the conclusion he is accurate, but would that conclusion be compelling if you found out that he is not the expert he claims?

I have asked and pinged Polarik on many threads to produce evidence who he is for the sake of establishing his expertise, even, if he wishes, to provide the affidavit he signed with his last name blacked out if he is concerned about security. He has never responded. Heck, a photograph of his PhD with his name blacked out would be fine.

Ron Polarik was invited to an Interview on TV, so who was the masked man that showed up in his place?

Not questioning he is a real person (albeit, he admits that isn't his name), I am asking him to prove he is the expert he claims. The credence of all his 'evidence' rests on if he is actually an expert. Go back and look at his evidence. Look at how many conclusions he comes to using phrases like 'from my experience' or 'in my expert opinion'.

If he is an expert as claims, those can be registered evidence. If he is not an expert, then those are just opinions.

Polarik has proven his mettle here on FR. You haven’t.

My 'mettle' here isn't to argue if it is real or not, my mettle is simply to raise the standard of what we call proof and to provide a little critical thinking so we don't fall for the next game change de'jour like we did Larry Sinclair, Whitey Tape, Michell Obama Tape, drug dealing, API stories, etc, etc.. We are batting something like 0 and 10 on these game changers we where hoping for. Time to make sure our swings at the ball are a little tighter.

456 posted on 12/05/2008 11:25:07 AM PST by mnehring
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To: baa39

If the case isn’t going to be heard on merits (which this case and Berg’s probably wont) they don’t have to submit anything.


457 posted on 12/05/2008 11:25:23 AM PST by flyfree
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To: BP2

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458 posted on 12/05/2008 11:25:55 AM PST by PaRepub07
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To: trumandogz; Salena Zito

And if he were not born in Hawaii, Sarah Palin, being very intelligent would have discovered that fact and brought it to everyone’s attention during the campaign.
***She was beholden to McCain, which is why she campaigned with less fire than she would have if she were on her own. She could easily have been told to keep her hands off that item, and there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that other republicans have been given the same heads up. Note that we’re saying “should have” or “could have” and these are all conjectures, the same levels of arguments from silence. If you want to know why the media hasn’t touched this item, ask a reporter yourself. That’s why I’m pinging Salena Zito. Salena’s silence is an indicator, but we cannot argue from it validly.


459 posted on 12/05/2008 11:26:03 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: couchpotatoxxx12

N00b, you’re spouting off without knowing what the hell you’re talking about, just like a typical affrimative action obamanoid. Since cases get taken to conference more than once on occasion, how can you assert that this one is dead? Also, what is your agenda in constantly demeaning and ridiculing people who are discussing this very important issue? ... Go back to David Axelrod and tell him that the astroturfing and ridiculing camapaign doesn’t work at FR.


460 posted on 12/05/2008 11:26:17 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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