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The Black Hole Gets Bigger: AIG Back for Yet Another Bailout
Naked Capitalism ^ | 11/08/08

Posted on 11/09/2008 4:45:48 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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No, black hole is not getting bigger. It is pretty huge to begin with.
1 posted on 11/09/2008 4:45:48 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: PAR35; TigerLikesRooster; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/09/2008 4:46:20 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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Expect more of this.

Off topic, the term “black hole” will be changed to something like “dense dot”, mark my words.


3 posted on 11/09/2008 4:49:49 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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No where in this article does the writer lay any blame with Congress or the Bush administration for implementing this socialist bail out plan. If they had let AIG wither on the vine then the economy would have eliminated an inefficient group of people who would not be asking for more. This socialist thinking only creates more takers which cannot be sustained over the long term.


4 posted on 11/09/2008 4:54:14 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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Just like the real thing, no bigger, just the continual sucking of taxpayers’ cash and kids’ futures into the unknown.


5 posted on 11/09/2008 4:55:33 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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Guess they either need money for Christmas bonuses or to take their execs on another expensive trip.
6 posted on 11/09/2008 4:57:59 AM PST by MissEdie
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“They compared the loan’s terms with the 5 per cent interest rate paid by the banks that recently sold preferred shares to the government.”

Which is another piece of trash. We, the taxpayers, got approximatley half the deal that the Brits or Buffett got.

It shames me that this gargage is going on under a Republican administration. Every right thinking person knew that AIG was a black hole. I say no more money - the Feds should seize their assets and parcel out the remains. No compensation for the upper management and certainly no dollars for the shareholders. The bondholders simply have to stand in line like the rest (or go to the Plan B proposal of turning those bond holders into equity holders of the company, after we get repaid of course.


7 posted on 11/09/2008 4:58:32 AM PST by exhaustguy
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” just the continual sucking of taxpayers’ cash and kids’ futures into the unknown. “

Ross Perot’s “Giant Sucking Sound” fades to a whisper in comparison...

“We has met the enemy, and he is us”......


8 posted on 11/09/2008 5:03:33 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Sometimes I sets and thinks, and sometimes I jus' sets.........)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is insane. Industry needs to fail then self correct.
Printing more money which is becoming worthless, artifically inflating the economy with rate cuts, housing bubble etc. Plans to overtax the nation when noone has money. I really see hard times ahead. I think things are going to get worse. Tell Prozac Pelosi no.


9 posted on 11/09/2008 5:07:28 AM PST by Lady GOP
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There is a connection with Soviet Gigantic-ism, Federalism, Corporatism. All with a disproved premise that large, monoculture organizations produce efficiencies that many smaller, discrete organizations don't.

It's fine in the private sector, in theory. Take GM, if GM goes down, fine, we have twenty other firms that are or will take it's place in supplying customer needs and wants. Of course do to politics, GM, and Ford and the wealthy private profiteers of Chrysler, will become like AIG.

Anyways, back to large Organizations. They are like having all your chickens grown in one single fifty mile long coop. Something goes wrong, you get a disease, you are screwed.

It is better to have many approaches to production. There is no perfect approach, that works at all times, everywhere. With different approaches, if one is found at fault, you still have many others that can go forward and use the information of the single failure.

It is not that Bush/Paulson/GS et al are bad people. It is that they are invested in the very system, such as it is, that produced this mess, which is really a collapse of a belief system. The Gods of Directives, CDO and leveraged to the thousands cut have been exposed as a delusion. The struggle now is about who gets the clean up bill. So far it has been the taxpayer.

10 posted on 11/09/2008 5:48:20 AM PST by Leisler (Obama is going to give us all Unicorns!)
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AIG’s executives were on Friday night locked in negotiations with the authorities over a plan that could involve a debt-for-equity swap and the government’s purchase of troubled mortgage-backed securities from the insurer.

Put those Dastards in jail and auction the companys assets.

11 posted on 11/09/2008 5:49:57 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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The Gods of Directives, CDO and leveraged to the thousands cut have been exposed as a delusion.

Nailed it brother, nailed It!!!

12 posted on 11/09/2008 5:52:47 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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AIG of Mass Destruction.

Bush gets hustled again.

13 posted on 11/09/2008 6:03:07 AM PST by Leisler (Obama is going to give us all Unicorns!)
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We are bailing out a financial priest class. They said their special words, their special ceremonies would cause the Gods to be happy with us.

Now Debt God very very angry.

Debt God want blood sacrifices.( Naturally, it can not be the Priest/Shaman class. Who the heck is going to perform the rip out the beating heart ceremony? )

And so on.

14 posted on 11/09/2008 6:06:54 AM PST by Leisler (Obama is going to give us all Unicorns!)
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I’m thinkin’ that if AIG wants to re-negotiate it’s gonna have to improve its FICO number.


15 posted on 11/09/2008 6:11:15 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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Now that the banking system has been stabilized, it’s time to let AIG go under.


16 posted on 11/09/2008 6:30:17 AM PST by devere
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AIG Back for Yet Another Bailout

Dude. Where's the party this time.

17 posted on 11/09/2008 6:37:02 AM PST by AndyJackson
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they didn’t want maurice greenberg back at the company he built to help out.


18 posted on 11/09/2008 6:37:38 AM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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Is this part of the “spread the wealth” agenda?


19 posted on 11/09/2008 6:39:58 AM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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Of course. Tax your enemy, and spread it around among your friends.:-)
20 posted on 11/09/2008 6:42:33 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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