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First, let me say that my father-in-law is a dyed-in-the-wool conservative,well-educated and intellectual, and he and I spend every Sunday afternoon having long, drawn-out discussions about politics that we both enjoy very much. He has changed my mind on some issues, and I have changed his, but more than that, I respect him, and feel that his views were given short shrift this year.

Specifically, by the overly negative emphasis of Republican advertising. I know, Obama's a muslim, terrorist, alien, puppy-killing ninja, but even if all that were true, by focusing on distractions instead of the issues in this critical year, all of your opinions were marginalized.

John McCain's speech last night was wonderful. I think that if he had held that tone throughout the campaign, he would have won last night. I disagree with him on so many things, yet I still respect him and believe that he is a patriot. This from someone who is disappointed because Obama is too conservative for my taste.

So, let's leave the 9/11 conspiracies and the guilt-by-association (Ayers, Wright, Liddy, etc) stuff alone, and talk about important things. And please, if you want to know why I hate America, it's all about reality TV (<-- sarcasm); real questions, please.

Fire away!
1 posted on 11/05/2008 10:57:21 AM PST by codejack
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When more of what you make next year gets “redistributed” away from you in favor of someone who did nothing whatsoever to earn it, themselves: think back to this day.


187 posted on 11/05/2008 3:32:03 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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Joe the plumber is ready to lay some pipe!

188 posted on 11/05/2008 3:32:56 PM PST by MarineBrat (A scholar who cherishes the love of comfort is not fit to be deemed a scholar.)
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ACORN multivoters united..*Barf*


190 posted on 11/05/2008 4:04:58 PM PST by Darksheare (Admin Moderator: Something like a GRUE... on performance enhancing substances.)
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iatz zotkitty is sad
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191 posted on 11/05/2008 4:40:29 PM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: codejack; darkwing104; Old Sarge
He's still smokin'. Better call in the...


193 posted on 11/05/2008 7:36:49 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (A member of His Majesty's Loyal Opposition...ready for four years of hard slogging.)
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I was busy, and didn’t get in here yesterday.

My biggest problem is that if I had the associations in my past that Obama has, I would never have gotten the security clearance my job requires.

And Obama is going to be privy to all security matters?


200 posted on 11/06/2008 3:39:36 AM PST by fredhead (Obama wants to kill babies and raise taxes. Palin wants to kill taxes and raise babies.)
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I know, Obama's a muslim, terrorist, alien, puppy-killing ninja...

I'll give you the first 3, but even after knowing all this, you still voted for him.

Who is the stupid one?

201 posted on 11/06/2008 3:51:10 AM PST by dirtbiker ("Ignorance" is curable. "Stupid" is terminal.)
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Okay, I think I have the strength to carry on one more flurry. Codejack, your pie-in-the-sky, “rainbows are pretty” with unicorns and leprechauns running wild through the flowers ideology makes me cringe. 1st off, have you ever heard of the term, “Self-licking ice cream cone”??? That is what government bureaucracy’s are as well as the entitlement programs and people they produce. 2nd, NOTHING is free… there is no such thing as a free lunch, free college, free healthcare, etc. etc. etc…. so please stop referring to it as such… someone somewhere has to pay for it all…. And darlin’ it sure isn’t the government doing the paying (refer back to self-licking ice cream cone). I come from a long line of entrepreneurs. I held my 1st “job” at the ripe ole age of 8… washing dishes in the back of my grandfather’s BBQ restaurant in central Texas trying to prove that I was a hard enough worker to get promoted to a front of the house job waiting tables. From there, I went on to work at a ranch in the summers of my 7th and 8th grade years to pay for camp during the summers. After that, I worked at soccer camps for in kind training – all before I was of “legal” working age. My parents helped instill in me a pride of working hard to get where and what I wanted…. something your way of thinking eliminates… it turns people into victims… hell look at the aftermath of Katrina…. many people suffered (and still do) as well as died waiting for the “government” to come in and SAVE THE DAY.

After graduating HS, I left for college, fell in love, got married and left during my junior year. Soon after that I found myself 1100 miles from home as a single parent with very little income. One of my “friends” at the time suggested that I go down to DSS (Department of Social Services) and apply for food stamps…. I was reluctant b/c I had been raised that reliance on others to do for you what you should be doing for yourself gets you nowhere fast… but I felt like I was in between a rock and a hard place, so I went down to the local DSS. Let me describe that day for you in detail. Reluctantly, feeling like I had let myself down, I went inside, grabbed a number, my paperwork and sat down to begin applying for a number of government handouts. To this day, almost like some form of PTSD, I can still feel the spirit of despair that filled the air when I walked into that building. People with no hope, no sense of self… it is so hard to describe what it felt like in there…. just take a 1 ton rock and place it on your chest-— there was no feeling of escape only some sort of mediocrity, damnation, loss of anything bigger. What I am describing here is not HOW I FELT…. it was how the entire place felt, it was the look on the people’s faces, the way they carried themselves, the stagnation… the loss of many dreams -— sheer and utter despair. At some point, I am not quite sure how long I sat in that chair, I eventually got up, left and went to my car where I wept. I am not sure how long I sat there crying…. but I remember it so vividly… like it was yesterday, I even remember the red shirt, blue jeans and tan boots I was wearing. My heart ached, it ached for all of those lost souls… all of those people who had so obviously given up…. given up on life. As I wiped the tears off of my face and started the car, I vowed to make sure that I -— ME -— not the government -— was in charge here and perfectly capable of making ends meet… hard wasn’t an issue… it was do or do not…. nothing else. Over the next 3 years, as a full-time student, I worked, as many as 6 jobs at one time, to make ends meet… anything from mowing the fields at school (hey I thought it was great b/c I could work on my tan at the same time) to serving coffee at the local coffee house. I didn’t have access to insurance to pay for my healthcare, I used services provided through my student fees from the school healthcare office. I knew that routine wellness/sick visits to my PCP were $35.00 a pop and I made sure I had the money to pay for them if needed. My PCP also knew of my financial situation, b/c I made him aware, and the few times I needed antibiotics or the like, he gave me the samples given to him from his pharmaceutical reps. I used my local Health Department for other services… I still had to pay for them mind you, but received services based on a sliding pay scale due to my income level. Next, for my dental care, I would go into our local Technical College’s dental hygienist program for my 6mos cleanings…. yeah, they need “guinea pigs” to practice on and at $5/visit you can’t pass that up… especially since the “guinea pig” must get checked out by 2 DDS’s before leaving the chair -— let me tell you, those were some of the most thorough dental cleanings I have had in my life ( a little time consuming, but you know that from the get go).

Life is hard… there is no doubt about that; however, nothing grows on the mountain top only in the valleys…. when I read/hear sycophantic messages such as yours, it reminds me of the day I walked into that DSS building… it reminds me of the desperation in the air. No matter HOW you try to wrap up your message…. it does nothing but tear down the individual. An when the individual is lost… ALL IS LOST.


204 posted on 11/06/2008 7:38:53 AM PST by zimfam007 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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