Posted on 11/05/2008 10:57:21 AM PST by codejack
Hi there! I'm a liberal, and I want to help you guys out. The fact is that neither side was particularly well represented this year, and in the interest of improving the level of conversation between liberals and conservatives, I thought I would offer to answer some questions and give some advice.
Read the rest before you ask, please, and if I say something that sounds sarcastic, it probably is, but I mean no offense.
Being associated with ayers, wright, and rezko is fine.
Being associated with President Bush will cost you an election.
I did start and had my say (see my #50). I'm not talking to him/her any more; well maybe I shouldn't have included All in a subsequent post, didn't address any more posts to that person otherwise. Can I not talk to the rest of you about how I feel, and are you saying I should be silent? That's what THEY do.
I'm hurting today, but anything I have to opine, I will try to do so without namecalling and insults.
OK, I have a serious question. How much less will a family of 4 making $40,000 in 2012 pay than they will this year (2008)?
And, yes, it is a trick question.
Transvestites and leather-clad drag queens performing sexual favors on each other in broad daylight during a parade in SanFagsisco is perfectly acceptable while a youth church choir performing during a Veteran's Day parade is cause for protest.
Oh, just go eat a soy bar and do some yoga.
But first tell me..... what happens when everyone just decides that its better to quit working and suck on the gummitt tit instead of watching every dime they have go to a fifth generation welfare queen?
How is it that my daughter who worked hard as hell to make good grades gets passed up for a scholarship while failing Shaniqua gets one simply due to affirmative action?
Why is it that when I want something, I work harder to get it instead of blaming the gummit for not giving it to me?
How is it that a baby's brains are sucked out of its head while its alive is OK but a rapist and murderer on deathrow has rights?
You will never understand us because your brain is so preoccupied with trying to think “progressively enlightened” that it cannot comprehend anything that is decent.
Anarchist commie, are you?
So, let's leave the 9/11 conspiracies and the guilt-by-association (Ayers, Wright, Liddy, etc) stuff alone, and talk about important things.
That IS the important things.
Bye, troll....
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No, I'm not saying you should be silent. I'm saying that if you believe you have the right to speak out, shouldn't that right be extended to others?
Thanks. It helps blow off steam on days like this.
OK. Do you believe it’s morally right for the state to take money or property away from one person or entity and give it to another for no reason other than its perception of “fairness”? Actually, maybe we ought to back up to establish whether you believe in the legitimacy of private property at all.
Oh.
My mistake, I figured you'd allude to candles and lotions, but I get your point.
Owl_Eagle
”You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in. I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being”
Thank you for the first sentence; I'm taking that as supporting my speak up (there are some things you can't say here so I don't). Yes, in thinking it over, I wouldn't stand in the way of your right to free speech. It doesn't mean I have to like everything that is posted was my point, probably the wrong time to bring it up.
I'm hurting just as bad as as the rest of you, and most of them are going to rub our noses in it and pour salt in our wounds. I can and do talk to some liberals if they don't call me names. Then the conversation is over. Today is just not the day for me to try to talk to a liberal.
Gawd....
i am from europe so let me tell you what is going to happen. i have lived in ireland when we had 17% unemployment, 25billion in borrowing, over 60% tax for EVERONE working then a mere 150,000 thousand. I saw queues for a fast food outlet with over 100 people looking for the only job.
thats socialism. you like all liberals read the books but have not experienced it. you have not experienced the sheer horror ...HORROR of a government involved in controlling your life. the desperation, the emigration, the savagery of it....oh you have fallen for it. you have believed the text, the enigmatic writing, the caring, the speeches. all that is bullshit. it leads to a dead end where you tax and tax and tax a ever decreasing circle and wind up like we did educating people to leave your country. Do you honestly think people will stay and work for others with less and less. if you do, you sir, are a moron. I hate people like you, and your smug educated arrogance that you know better.that same educated arrogance that is not based on actually delivery but talking talking talkin about delivery. you are so full of caring for others you deny them the right to get off their ass and save themselves. you think you know best and it leads to a desperate clawing poverty that goes from generation to generation. Over the last 15 years ireland dumped as much of that as we could and thank jesus we did. we have loads to go and loads of problems now as we tried to think we we so fracken smart we could do both, yes we fell for the compassionate crap. we still have families, thousands of them who believe getting preganant, leaving school, getting free housing, getting social welfare is a life. That is what you created yesterday. what is hilarious to me, is you actually think you are giving people hope. you think education is some miracle cure. God you have not a clue. HERE IS WHAT WORKS..give people a chance to get a job, to pick themselves up and look for the only thing govts should be involved in, encouraging an environment for success, everthing else they balls up. however what you want is some faceless beurocrat to visit you to see what you are and are not entitled to, to asssess you lifestyle to ensure you dont poke your head above the scronging misery of your peers.
you, you complete moron voted for that yesterday. Welcome to socialism, whether you like it or not... the truly sad part is you probably think i am making this up or no doubt will have so really cute one liner like ‘yes we can’ as some cure all or a smart comeback quip. you know what enjoy it, here is a thing i learned in those years on an unemployment queue...you cant sell a quip or eat it. to my dying day the saddest image of my life was an old man in his 60’s with his life written on a torn corn flake box, trying to explain to a govt bitch how he had worked 45 years, yes 45 years paying tax, was made unemployed and why was he only going to get 100 pounds and how he could not feed his family on that. thats socialism or what ever your ‘yes we can’ barry likes to dress it up in. i truly hope no one experiences that ever again....but you voted for that. open your eyes and answer me this...is that what you wanted yesterday, because as God is my witness, thats what you have today. you are about to learn a hard lesson. i hope you make it, but i suspect you feel it is above you, like all liberals. you want the govt to solve the issues so you can ignore them. how desperately desperately sad...
First let me ask that you describe yourself as a Liberal -— big L not little l.... nxt, as far as single-payer universal health care is concerned.... you already have it and have had it in its current organized form since about the mid-1920’s it is called your local Health Department and AHEC’s... today, the scope of services available vary widely primarily dependent on what you VOTE ON LOCALLY!!!!
Anywho, I digress what is terribly amiss with your logic is that in some dream world, you truly believe that government can do it better and for more people.... then let me ask you this, if that is truly the case, then why over thousands of years of history has that NOT BEEN the case???? Tell me, show me, where has it worked???
Go stand in line for your 0bama hand out and bug off of here.
Tomorrow will be soon enough to get cracking on 2012.
Question #5: Do you embrace the group's principles that supports Obama in the following article? If no, then how does your support of Obama differ?
Communist Party USA 2008 Electoral Policy
Found at: http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleprint/907/
First published: 03/21/2008 12:47
The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.
The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them.
While we do not endorse any particular candidates, we do endorse and join in the anti-Bush/anti-right wing sentiments that are driving so many people to activism.
The fact that the Democratic frontrunners are an African American and a woman speaks volumes on how far the country has come. Hillary Clinton’s campaign has attracted large numbers of supporters, especially women. Other Democratic contenders presented some excellent proposals to reverse the devastation caused by the Bush administration’s policies.
Barack Obama’s campaign has so far generated the most excitement, attracted the most votes, most volunteers and the most money. We think the basic reason for this is that his campaign has the clearest message of unity and progressive change, while having a real possibility for victory in November.
As we see it, however, this battle is bigger than the Democrats and Republicans, even though those parties are the main electoral vehicle for most voters today. Our approach is to focus on issues and movements that are influencing candidates and parties.
We will work with others to defeat the Republican nominee and to end right-wing control of the new Congress.
The activism growing out of this election will help guarantee a progressive mandate no matter who is elected. It is critical to our country’s renewal and future.
We think this election is a great opportunity to bring an early withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. It can mean job creation and relief for those who are losing their homes or unable to pay their bills.
This election can set the stage to advance the interests of working people; of those excluded because of race, gender, sexual orientation and immigration status.
This election can begin to turn the tide: it can help bring universal health care, save the environment and start the restoration of our democratic rights. This election can strengthen democracy for all.
In the long run, we see the need for an independent “people’s party” -- an electoral party that will unite labor and all democratic forces. We also are working for a political system and government whose priority is to watch the backs of working families, not fill the pockets of the corporate fat cats. Our slogan, “people before profits” and our goal of “Bill of Rights socialism” say it all.
Unite this, leftard.
Get in line... I am still waiting for answers to all of my questions... LOL. And Irishguy... bingo on your post... when we speak of an elitist mentality these libs just don’t get it... they have NO CLUE... the best thing that you can do for a person is to teach him how to fish.... not show him where he can stand in line for one.......
Hi there! I'm a psilocyben mushroom. I'm the one who got away when you ate my slower brothers underneath that cow pattie shortly before you made this post.
Explain how college can be free for all citizens. Someone has to pay for it. Who do you think that will be? The govrnment=taxpayers. Which means we all pay for it. Ergo it's not free.
Atlas is about to shrug. Good luck getting all that "free" stuff when the producers stop paying for it.
Best. Post. Ever.
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