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To: blackbart.223
If you use false statements objectivity falls out of the question.

The word was "objective," as in, "involving or deriving from sense perception or experience with actual objects, conditions, or phenomena."

Whether or not Biden's "facts" were honest, he probably succeeded in making a lot of people think they were honest, which in politics is most of the battle.

254 posted on 10/02/2008 8:37:55 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Whether or not Biden's "facts" were honest, he probably succeeded in making a lot of people think they were honest, which in politics is most of the battle.

Ironically for Biden, I think the brain dead undecideds when more for Sarah's style than they did for Biden's well presented, lies.

286 posted on 10/02/2008 8:55:11 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: r9etb
Whether or not Biden's "facts" were honest, he probably succeeded in making a lot of people think they were honest, which in politics is most of the battle.

Key word: probably. My take: Unlikely. People are sick to death of smarmy, elitist politicians who believe they can tell us what we think and how we feel. Joe Biden even had a few moments of smug "buddy-buddy" looks toward Gwen Ifil, as if to say, "Sarah's just a dumb little girl. You and I, we know better." If you watched the Luntz group's reaction segment, you have to know they represent a portion of the voting population who really, really liked what Sarah had to say.

305 posted on 10/02/2008 9:19:19 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: r9etb
"Whether or not Biden's "facts" were honest, he probably succeeded in making a lot of people think they were honest, which in politics is most of the battle."

To make short, Lies are in order.

309 posted on 10/02/2008 9:27:58 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: r9etb
"Whether or not Biden's "facts" were honest, he probably succeeded in making a lot of people think they were honest, which in politics is most of the battle."

There the problem is. Biden, Hitler and Obama know that if you repeat a lie long enough it appears to be the Truth.

319 posted on 10/03/2008 8:41:08 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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