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To: wolfcreek

Yah know, I really want to read (or write) a novel about Aztlan separatists trying to break away the American Southwest, with Amreican civilians and NG fighting against them, and UN fighter-bombers and “Peacekeepers” fighting in support of them, while a paralyzed adminstration tries get its ducks in a row to destroy the invaders and fight the UN plots against our nation.

But invading the US would almost as crazy as invading the USSR (er... Russia) or China - too much room, too many people, too effective a military. The logistics of such an operation would really suck. Before the UN could something like that, the US would essentially have to be destroyed anyway.


71 posted on 09/26/2008 2:01:32 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Little Ray
I don't think I would like to be the *other than American* in that scenario.
82 posted on 09/26/2008 2:15:53 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Little Ray
Yah know, I really want to read (or write) a novel about Aztlan separatists trying to break away the American Southwest, with Amreican civilians and NG fighting against them, and UN fighter-bombers and “Peacekeepers” fighting in support of them, while a paralyzed adminstration tries get its ducks in a row to destroy the invaders and fight the UN plots against our nation.

It's been done. A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, by John J. Carpenter, ISBN 1-4137-8889-0. Available from Amazon. A very good read.

Full disclosure. I have no financial connection with either the author or the publisher.

123 posted on 09/26/2008 3:49:23 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: Little Ray
....Aztlan separatists trying to break away the American Southwest, with American civilians and NG fighting against them, and UN fighter-bombers and “Peacekeepers” fighting in support of them, while a paralyzed administration tries get its ducks in a row to destroy the invaders and fight the UN plots against our nation.

THAT is prescient. Absolutely "seeable." Something like that is how it would wind out. Yow. Scary. Enlightened folk think it's kooksville to even be posting about civil war -- and maybe it is, in 2008. But what about 2025?

And what about society being broken down so that we don't have our beloved FR network, nor cel phones?

In a really down-and-dirty civil war, ones who would do best would be ones who know how to build and do stuff. Like build radio networks, produce food, metalwork, electronics, engineering, building. God bless mechanics, every one. Hands-on men -- and women, too. Most of the people I know who are like that lean toward the independent, conservative side.

On the other hand, a good deal of the folks I know who are liberal have no real useful skills. They're managers, marketers, administrators, teachers, artists, entertainers. When push comes to shove, they can't really produce much. The ones who tend to be conservative have hobbies that involve skills, like restoring cars -- or even building models (the original "Flight of the Phoenix" is a timeless lesson).

I would think the liberal side of this equation in such a conflict would be topheavy with lack of skills and talent. I mean, let's face it: Al Gore couldn't "survive" his ass out of a wet paper bag, nor would he have a network of folks who could.

134 posted on 09/26/2008 5:43:26 PM PDT by Finny
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To: Little Ray
Yah know, I really want to read (or write) a novel about Aztlan separatists trying to break away the American Southwest, with Amreican civilians and NG fighting against them, and UN fighter-bombers and “Peacekeepers” fighting in support of them, while a paralyzed adminstration tries get its ducks in a row to destroy the invaders and fight the UN plots against our nation.

OK! Freeper Travis McGee has written that very book!!

It's Vol 2. of a series, read Vol 1. first for best effect!

144 posted on 09/27/2008 2:47:33 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Little Ray
Yah know, I really want to read (or write) a novel about Aztlan separatists trying to break away the American Southwest, with Amreican civilians and NG fighting against them, and UN fighter-bombers and “Peacekeepers” fighting in support of them, while a paralyzed adminstration tries get its ducks in a row to destroy the invaders and fight the UN plots against our nation.

Start here.

219 posted on 09/30/2008 11:57:37 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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