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To: stripes1776
“Einstein was quite aware that experimental results of subatomic particles contradicted his theory of relativity. This distressed him greatly.”

- I apologize if I wasn't all that clear in my earlier remark. I meant he initially set sail for a “clinical” theory, disregarding the eventuality of certain particles not wishing to collaborate while he was there, on the job.

Perhaps I ought to take Einstein more seriously.
(Or maybe you haven't had a real drink yet this weekend, fellow freeper:D? - Just joking).

Actually, this, rather well known dilemma of Monsieur Einstein is exactly what I was aiming at in my comment.

My impression too is he was, at least somewhat, distressed by the problems he faced.

However, to genuine theorists like Einstein this problem could easily be done away with.

Like the surveyor's credo states;

“If the terrain doesn't fit the map, the terrain has to go.”

37 posted on 08/23/2008 2:52:58 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
I apologize if I wasn't all that clear in my earlier remark. I meant he initially set sail for a “clinical” theory, disregarding the eventuality of certain particles not wishing to collaborate while he was there, on the job.

No, it wasn't clear at all. I thought you were simply dismissing the last 30 years of Einstein's research. Whatever his earlier views might have been, in his mature years he was keenly aware that relativity and quantum mechanics contradict each other. And as Aristotle knew and ever Schoolman knew in the Middle Ages, a contradiction is always false. And Einstein knew that too.

(Or maybe you haven't had a real drink yet this weekend, fellow freeper:D? - Just joking).

I am a Vodka drinker. So tonight I will toast you when I have my third drink. Santé, cincin.

Actually, this, rather well known dilemma of Monsieur Einstein is exactly what I was aiming at in my comment. My impression too is he was, at least somewhat, distressed by the problems he faced. However, to genuine theorists like Einstein this problem could easily be done away with.

Well, I don't think it is a matter of an impression. It is a fact that Einstein spent the last 30 years of his life looking for a unified field theory. He knew there was a contraction between his theory and quantum mechanics. And no, the problem cannot be easily done away with unless you decide to throw logic out the window. Einstein tried for 30 years to find a solution, but he failed to find a theory that would resolve the contradiction.

Physicists today are still trying to find a solution. Super string theory and M-theory may be the key to unlock this tangled problem, but there still isn't a consensus among scientists. And then there is the problem of experimental data. There simply aren't any instruments sensitive enough to detect these proposed strings.

The logic that a contradiction is false hasn't change since ancient Greece, the Middle Ages, or the Renaissance. (Unless of course a man agrees with Martin Luther that reason is a great whore.) There may indeed be things in life that logic cannot explain. But that is no excuse to discard logic in its legitimate fields of application like science. In science as in logic and mathematics, a contradiction is still false.

47 posted on 08/23/2008 4:12:12 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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