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To: Soliton
I believe you claimed that evolutionists were Hindus

???? You really did miss the point, didn't you?

I didn't say that evolutionists are Hindus. Let me break it down for you.

- Evolutionists (and secularists in general) say that including creationism and/or ID in public school science curricula would be "teaching religion in the public schools".

- This is based upon the fact that the notion that "God created life, the earth, the universe, etc." instead of it originating from "random materialistic forces" is a tenet held by pretty much all major, monotheistic religions today (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, various pseudo-cultist offshoots thereof, etc.) - Therefore, teaching anything that detracts from evolution is "teaching religion", and thereby promoting Judeo-Christian or Islamic religion, even though neither creationism nor ID are or must be intrinsically tied to any one religious group - it's a generally-held and ecumenical position. - Now, if this is true for the evolutionist, then we must note that evolutionism shares a lot of cosmological assumptions with Hinduism (extremely long earth age, evolutionary origin of species through gradual change, etc.) - Ergo, by the evolutionists own logic, if teaching creationism is tantamount to teaching Christian fundamentalism in the public schools, then teaching evolutionism means to be tantamount to teaching Hinduism. Get it?

40 posted on 08/02/2008 9:33:41 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Evolutionists (and secularists in general) say that including creationism and/or ID in public school science curricula would be "teaching religion in the public schools".

As does the SCOTUS and state courts

44 posted on 08/02/2008 9:37:53 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

HTML code and preview are your friends, TQC


45 posted on 08/02/2008 9:38:31 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
- Evolutionists (and secularists in general) say that including creationism and/or ID in public school science curricula would be "teaching religion in the public schools".

As others have pointed out, this is established law, explicitly spelled out by the supreme court.

47 posted on 08/02/2008 9:41:43 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Therefore, teaching anything that detracts from evolution is "teaching religion",

No. Teaching religion is teaching religion. There is no scientific evidence for ID or creationism and mountains of evidence against it. That is why it can't be tought in public schools.

48 posted on 08/02/2008 9:42:17 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Man, you know less about Hinduism that you do about science.


50 posted on 08/02/2008 9:43:56 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Evolutionists (and secularists in general) say that including creationism and/or ID in public school science curricula would be "teaching religion in the public schools". This is based upon the fact that the notion yada yada yada... they got caught red-handed.

Fixed it for you.

74 posted on 08/02/2008 10:05:32 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; Soliton
I get it. But...Evolutionists will be deliberately dense.

It's in the evolutionist best interest to be dense. Hey! Maybe if they remain dense, government will continue extracting from the taxpayers the money needed for indoctrinating other people's children in their anointed godless worldview in our government godless temples ( misnamed “schools”).

Ah! But...It is catching on! Conservatives are now aware that it is impossible to have a religiously neutral education.

The compulsory, police enforced, godless worldview is not religiously neutral. No indeed! Instead it teaches children that their religion is irrelevant in evaluating cultural, and political issues. It teaches them that their religious beliefs need to be hidden as if they were shameful like some bathroom activity. It teaches them that the government holds their religious belief in disdain.

Evolution is merely one of thousands of issues in the government schools over which opposing groups can **NOT** compromise. To compromise over these **many** issues would mean denying what they see is the truth. Doing so is a wound on their conscience.

Of course the solution is to begin the process of getting government out of the K-12 education business. We need to begin the process of privatizing K-12 education and establishing complete separation of school and state. Do this and all this acrimony will immediately disappear.

Government schools always were, are now, and always will be a freedom of conscience and First Amendment nightmare!

191 posted on 08/02/2008 6:40:34 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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