Posted on 07/29/2008 6:10:10 PM PDT by decimon
ON the afternoon of Nov. 7, 2006, pilots and airport employees at OHare International Airport in Chicago saw a disc-like object hovering over the tarmac for several minutes. Because nothing was tracked on radar, the Federal Aviation Administration did not investigate. Yet radar is not a reliable detector of all aircraft. Stealth planes are designed to be invisible to radar, and many radar systems filter out signals not matching the normal characteristics of aircraft. Did it really make sense to entirely ignore the observations of several witnesses?
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On Dec. 26, 1980, for instance, several witnesses at two American Air Force bases in England reported seeing a U.F.O. land. An examination of the site turned up indentations in the ground and a level of radiation in the area that was significantly higher than ordinary. More witnesses at the same base reported the U.F.O. again on subsequent nights. The deputy base commander reported that the aircraft aimed light beams into the most highly sensitive area of the base a clear security breach.
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(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Fascinating to see who all
CARES SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!
Uh, sorry to burst your bubble, but you pinged me to this thread in your post 4....in any case, there is no stalking, I thought this was an open thread....certainly nothing amazing here, at all..,
Awwwwwwwwwww . . .
I wonder . . . for what purpose would I ping folks on such a thread . . .
pondering . . .
pondering . . .
pondering . . .
LOL.
I have no idea, but when I checked my pings, there was your ping....check out everyone in your ping list that you used, in in your post #4..That is the ping I found this morning..otherwise, I doubt I would have bothered...but since you absolutely did ping me, I found the thread...
THANKS MUCH FOR THE ALERT
andysandmikesmom;
That problem has been fixed.
You have been removed from the UFO ping list—which you must have requested to be on.
Las Vegas Dave will remove you from the backup list.
It is REALLY NOT designed nor desired to be a list that includes naysayers given to cheeky and assaultive posts.
You can remove me or not, it makes no difference to me...I was unaware of a rule, that everyone on a thread had to agree with each other...it does not matter anyway, as anyone on FR, can find any thread quite easily enough...on any particular thread people can agree or disagree, according to their opinion, and their experience and what they believe...
As I said, I was quite unaware that there was a rule, that stated that everyone on a thread had to agree with the subject matter of the thread...people can disagree with you, and can agree with you, as has happened on this thread....you believe one way, others believe another...thus, discussion and debate exist....
Cheeky and assaultive posts go on all the time, on FR, why is this particular thread different...all I did, was send a smiley towards Doggone, and JudithAnne, how you can call that assaultive is unknown...but if you want to consider a smiley as assaultive, that is of course, your choice...
Assault by smiley is a new one for me.
I wouldn’t lose sleep over it.
I am sure I won’t....
Thanks for the wonderful guffaws.
Quite nice.
Naw, had nothing to do with the smiley faces. LOL.
Of course not everyone has to agree on UFO threads.
However, when the mood strikes one of the list holders . . . we may try and minimize certain flavors of distractions.
LOL.
Do what ever you wish, as it makes no difference to me...being a list holder, only means, you ping certain people to a thread...but that is all it does...anyone, anytime, anywhere on FR can find the thread, it will just naturally pop up, where any person on FR can find it, and participate, if he/she wishes...you can try to minimize whatever you like...that does not mean it will happen, because these threads are all open to everyone...
AAHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
What a sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet . . .
uhhhhh . . . .
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . .
notification.
LOL
ROTFLOL.
Kind of CTTM (Condescending To The Max) but no surprises there either.
ROTFLOL.
Do whatever you want, think whatever you want, believe whatever you want....it is unimportant and irrelevant to me and my real life...
Well, of course, the laughing pictures must come out, as they always do....thanks for keeping up the routine, it makes many of us chuckle...
Amazing, in post 61 I was pinged to this discussion!
Didn’t you think JoJo Gunn’s comment was hilarious?
Back to real life. :D
Why yes, you were pinged in that post...I pinged you in a later post, only because I mentioned your name, and according to FR courtesy, you are supposed to ping those you may not be talking to directly, but rather you are pinging them, because you mentioned them by name...
Yes, that JoJoGunn was hilarious....I do agree with that...and since I mentioned him, I will ping him...
I naturally cant speak for any other poster, but the last rumor I heard, this was a forum where members can freely roam about, find threads that interests them, and post comments, and even post comments to other posters. What a novel concept!
Now, in my case, I just happened upon a thread with UFOs as the subject, and lo and behold I found someone who daily (so it seems) posts about bug-eyed faeries that forgot to bring their road map to San Francisco, and he imagines himself an expert on such, and he even has connections at the highest levels, dontcha know?
Call it beginners luck, call it serendipity, but I, your humble poster, discovered that someone supposedly so privy to the goings-on of the Rump Rangers from Outer Space, was totally clueless as to the death of Philip J. Klass, the most renown (and devastatingly effective) debunker of the UFO movement. What self respecting New Age huckster wouldnt have such basic and necessary knowledge?
So much for those connections, eh?
Here’s an interesting narrative:
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/global/story.asp?s=8750270
George Knapp, Chief Investigative Reporter
I-Team: New UFO Mystery Surfaces
Updated: July 29, 2008 09:04 AM
I-Team: New UFO Mystery Surfaces
WEB EXTRA: Witnesses Describe 1990s’ UFO Sightings
Frank Costigan says he saw something streak across the night sky.
Frank Costigan says he saw something streak across the night sky.
David Hayes, the owner of KTOX Radio in Needles, saw suspicious vehicles in the area.
David Hayes, the owner of KTOX Radio in Needles, saw suspicious vehicles in the area.
A large object with a turquoise hue plummeted out of the sky earlier this summer and plowed into the earth south of Las Vegas near Needles, California.
Eyewitnesses say this was no meteorite, especially since a bunch of helicopters came looking for it and then hauled it away.
The object was seen in the early morning hours of May 14. It appeared to crash into the ground just west of the Colorado River. And that’s when things got interesting for residents of the area.
Have a UFO Story? Tell Us About It
Somewhere in the rough terrain just west of the Colorado River and south of Needles is a point of impact, maybe some burn marks, created by something that fell from the sky. Frank Costigan saw it because he got up at 3 a.m. to let his cat out — a fiery object that flashed across the sky, but it wasn’t a meteor he says.
“It was bright, bright enough that it illuminated the ground,” he said.
For seven years, Costigan worked as the chief of airport security at L.A.X. He says the mystery object flew out of the north east, heading southwest, traveling very fast, but at one point it slowed down, then sped up again.
“It went behind a hill, and I waited to see if I could hear it crash because as big as it was, it was bound to make noise,” he said.
But he didn’t hear a crash. Hours later, David Hayes, the owner of KTOX Radio in Needles, was coming to work when he spotted an odd formation of dark vehicles getting off the highway. He drew a picture of the lead vehicle, a large truck with a dome on top and a black structure that reminded him of a stealth fighter.
“It seemed like it was some kind of surveillance vehicle — four-wheel drive. It had government plates, U.S. government plates and behind it were a couple of vans that looked like support vehicles,” said Hayes.
The men inside had a military bearing, Hayes said, but weren’t in uniform. He made eye contact with one of the drivers and the guy followed him. Later in the day, one of the vehicles was parked outside the station, seemingly conducting a surveillance of the place.
“These guys staring you down had a ‘Men in Black’ feel to it?” asks Knapp.
“Absolutely. Very serious, serious as a heart attack,” said Hayes.
Coincidentally, Costigan, the ex-cop, works on investigations for Hayes. When he came in to the radio station, he told Hayes about the thing he had seen in the sky, and Hayes told him about the Men in Black.
Then they got another piece of the puzzle — a call from a man who lives in a houseboat on the river, who said he saw the fiery object — that it had crashed about 100 yards west of the river, that it landed with a thump. Hayes says he’s known the witness for years by the name Bob on the river. Bob thought a plane had crashed and tried to call 911 but his cell wouldn’t work, so he moved his boat out into the river, and then heard the helicopters.
In an interview with journalist Linda Howe, Bob says he saw at least five helicopters flying in formation, including a large sky crane. The crane picked up the oval shaped object, still glowing, and flew away, heading in the direction of Las Vegas. One odd detail, the choppers arrived only 17 minutes after the object crashed. He described it to Hayes.
“It was about the size of a semi-trailer, he says, oblong shaped thing,” said Hayes.
Out of the blue, the station got a call from a friend in Laughlin who said the Laughlin Airport had been inundated on the night of the crash with so-called Janet planes. That’s the airline that flies workers to top secret Area 51. Costigan says the airport could not confirm this because no one is on duty after 6 p.m. at night, not even in the tower.
The black vehicles have left Needles. Bob the houseboat guy can’t be found either.
“The fact that there were people here the next day, it was almost like they were doing some sort of cleanup or whatever. The point is, something definitely happened.
The I-Team phoned nearly every agency we could think of to see if they had received any report or knew anything. We were not surprised to learn that no one knew anything.
Here’s the list — police agencies in three states, the Laughlin Airport, the weather service, the FAA and several military bases.
A military watchdog group found a public record showing there was at least one army helicopter in the air in that area at that time. The helicopter, oddly enough, is listed as being attached to a U.S. base in Europe.
We are filing freedom of information requests and will report back when we get responses.
Linda Moulton Howes page about such with some more info:
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1432&category=Environment
Interesting how wonderful some assumptions seem to the assumer.
Doug, you might enjoy my last post just above, too.
Another very interesting article
(that he wants to charge $500 for reprinting for due to impoverished retirement)
is available here:
http://www.stargate-chronicles.com/release_mitchell.html
A past Space Shuttle ScO, admits ET’s are Real. And this ScO has seen them, himself with another witness!
McClelland in the cockpit of the space shuttle29 July 2008
(The 39th. Anniversary of Apollo 11 landing on the MOON, 20 July, 1969)
Clark C. McClelland, former ScO, Space Shuttle Fleet, Kennedy Space Center, Florida, 1958 to 1992. (Photo on the right: ScO, McClelland in the cockpit of the Space Shuttle Columbia, 1992)
Copyright © by Clark C. McClelland, 20 July 2008
DO NOT COPY this article without receiving written permission by the author!
In SUPPORT of MY FRIEND, Courageous, US NASA ASTRONAUT, Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14!
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