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Separation Of Church And State
Dr. Jaafar Idris Site ^ | unknown | Dr. Jaafar Sheikh Idris

Posted on 07/28/2008 5:25:53 AM PDT by EBH

Secularists in the West will agree with this, then they will point out that under Islamic law, people are not all equal. No non-Muslim, for example, could become the president. Well, in response to that fact, in turn, secularism is no different. No Muslim could become president in a secular regime, for in order to pledge loyalty to the constitution, a Muslim would have to abandon part of his belief and embrace the belief of secularism — which is practically another religion. For Muslims, the word 'religion' does not only refer to a collection of beliefs and rituals, it refers to a way of life which includes all values, behaviors, and details of living.

Secularism cannot be a solution for countries with a Muslim majority, for it requires people to replace their God-given beliefs with an entirely different set of man-made beliefs. Separation of religion and state is not an option for Muslims because it requires us to abandon God's decree for that of a man.

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TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; islam; mohammedanism; president
Dr Jaafar Sheikh Idris is considered one of a few Muslim Scholars of this era who comprehended the knowledge of Islam and Western Ideologies. He authored many articles and Islamic research papers. He visited many countries around the world where he lectured in both Arabic and English.

While I have read many postings on how we 'think' islam is not compatible with our political structure here is an islamic point of view the tells muslims it is not. Again I am faced with the thought that if a religion is in direct violation of the Constitutional Rights of the people does it hold the Right as a religion?

If a muslim cannot pledge loyalty to our Constitution, as indicated in the excerpt, can they hold public office of any kind? Based on our secular political system we fight for and value the "separation of church and state" and we accept that a muslim can hold public office. This is contrary to what the excerpt reads. The only thing holding a muslim back from holding public office or participating in our political system is islam. Our secular definition of religion respects islam as a religious entity, its right to exist equally in our country along side any other religion. We fail to consider the islamic definition of its religion, which is not secular in nature.

The excerpt explains the word 'religion' for muslims. Within the context of the article, what is the author describing? Based on the article a muslim cannot hold office due to his/her religious edicts or until there is a muslim majority to impose islam, which then violates our Constitutional Rights. Separation of religion and state is not an option for Muslims

The article reveals the insidious nature of islam. Islam teaches that public office cannot be acquired until there is a sufficient majority of muslims to be able to impose islam. Looking at Europe and its islamization one can actually see this at work. It is also at work here in the United States, but not yet on that scale as to seem utterly threatening to our Constitution. What we are seeing is the use of our court systems to manipulate the 'acceptance' of islamic standards.

1 posted on 07/28/2008 5:25:54 AM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

But Muslims do believe in the separation of head from shoulders.


2 posted on 07/28/2008 5:29:07 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Always Right

Is there a definitive breakdown of Islam as a political structure and a religion? In other words, is it possible to separate Islam as a religion from it’s political platform?
It seems that the political demands are to ingrained within the religious structure, but if so, how have they managed to live alongside other people peacefully? It seems like every 500 years or so they become more militant.


3 posted on 07/28/2008 5:04:32 PM PDT by asksimon (I'd rather be a rightwing nutjob, Then a lib with no job and no nuts.)
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To: EBH

Keith Ellison doesn’t seem to have that problem. I find it interesting that Islam seems to make advances on the lefty side of the aisle. Politics certainly make strange bedfellows.


4 posted on 07/28/2008 5:18:41 PM PDT by asksimon (I'd rather be a rightwing nutjob, Then a lib with no job and no nuts.)
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